trekka Posted June 4, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted June 4, 2021 (edited) Apparently my credit rating is now "excellent". I can't do much with it though seeing as I can't remortgage or sell the damn place to better myself*. No doubt that rating will change though when the big bills start coming in and I can't pay. *I could get a cheap loan to buy an old motorhome / camper I suppose. Not that it's a good idea but who knows what is going to happen. Edited June 4, 2021 by trekka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 Fours years to the day since Grenfell and hundreds of thousands of people are still going to sleep in flammable and unsafe properties. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 2 hours ago, Xela said: Fours years to the day since Grenfell and hundreds of thousands of people are still going to sleep in flammable and unsafe properties. The government promised to re house all the survivors. Four years later, seven families remain in temporary accommodation. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted June 15, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted June 15, 2021 The opposition to the Tories is a joke, they could bring this up every day in parliament and destroy Boris in a week, disgraceful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 (edited) An example of a remediation bill to fix a shoddily built flat. Just passed onto the Leaseholder without any thought or consideration. Scandal. Being ignored by the Government as they are in the pockets of the house builders, property companies and corporate landlords. Edited August 13, 2021 by Xela 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 7 minutes ago, Xela said: An example of a remediation bill to fix a shoddily built flat. Just passed onto the Leaseholder without any thought or consideration. Scandal. Being ignored by the Government as they are in the pockets of the house builders, property companies and corporate landlords. I know you’re unlikely to personally be impacted by this, but I’d still be selling up and getting out to be sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 Just now, Genie said: I know you’re unlikely to personally be impacted by this, but I’d still be selling up and getting out to be sure. The problem is that banks don't really want to lend on flats anymore, so buyers can''t get a mortgage, meaning that sales are breaking down all over the place and people can't leave. The only option for people is a cash sale - probably at 50% of the true value of the property, if that. Thats not an option for most people. Those bills there are the extreme end of the scale - high rise, same cladding as Grenfell, timber balconies, etc. They tick all the wrong boxes. There is a slow move to exclude low rise flats but like most Government policy, it is moving at a snails pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted August 13, 2021 Moderator Share Posted August 13, 2021 Ironically the best resolution for those people is probably an insurance fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 13, 2021 Moderator Share Posted August 13, 2021 3 hours ago, OutByEaster? said: Ironically the best resolution for those people is probably an insurance fire. We were all out at a community party we booked the hall weeks ago 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 11 hours ago, OutByEaster? said: Ironically the best resolution for those people is probably an insurance fire. No, that doesn’t work for the little people. The police and the insurance would be all over it and the case would be resolved and closed within weeks, a couple of months at most. You don’t rip off the big guys and get away with it. This years of review with no real action at the end are a device to protect the big guys with serious money to lose that could then impact the politicians. What they actually need to do, is be seen to sponsor a few politicians, make some hefty donations… then just burn the thing down however clumsily they fancy. Government will step in and unilaterally announce no party donor should ever feel unsafe and its being rebuilt better than it was before. A few of the residents should then be able to win a few of the decorating contracts at eye watering profits. That’s how this country works now. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 (edited) Milan. Edited August 29, 2021 by a m ole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted August 30, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted August 30, 2021 (edited) 18 hours ago, a m ole said: Milan. Clearly another modern tower block clad in composite panels. This issue has been known about for years but they keep allowing people to clad buildings in highly flammable materials. In the olden days fires would work upwards. This one started on the upper floors and spread downwards, no doubt due to the plastic materials melting and falling downwards to lower floors. I can't understand why they are just not banned..... Well I do it's because they have amazing insulating properties, and we do need to insulate better but surely not at the expense of human life. Surely it's better to have a reasonably well insulated panel filled with rockwool than an amazingly insulated panel filled with polystyrene? Edited August 30, 2021 by sidcow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Important story: The thread continues with some information about the tests which you should absolutely read, but which I've left out for length reasons. Thread concludes: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted December 6, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted December 6, 2021 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 This is another way the tories will be sunk. Complete inaction of this scandal 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessiWillSignForVilla Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 (edited) Happening again in London This looks to be a more more modern building however so hopefully no cladding issue, but looks pretty huge. Edit: A more recent tweet makes it looks like it's a bit more under control now, but still a load of firefighters there to deal with it. Edited March 7, 2022 by MessiWillSignForVilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 8 minutes ago, MessiWillSignForVilla said: Happening again in London This looks to be a more more modern building however so hopefully no cladding issue, but looks pretty huge. Unfortunately fire safety is more than just cladding - its also about lack of fire barriers/breaks when they were built and many other things. So many modern flats have been built to an appalling standard. Hopefully everyone is ok. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted March 7, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted March 7, 2022 That looks like it's worked "normally" for a tower block fire. The fire is obviously substantial and burned for a length of time but seems to have been contained in the floor it started and the one immediately above only. What hasn't happened is the fire quickly shooting up inside the skin of the cladding totally enveloping the building in a matter of minutes. You're not seeing flaming sheets of melting plastic falling away from the fire. So either the cladding did not have any highly flammable insulation within it, or the fire stops between cladding sheets functioned effectively. Though the most likely explanation looking at it is that it is actually built of all glass double glazing rather than insulated composite panels. All in all I would say this is a dramatic improvement on what happened at Grenfell. You're not going to stop fires but when they do break out, and doubly especially in a high rise, you want them well contained. This seems to have been well contained. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BOF Posted May 20, 2022 Moderator Share Posted May 20, 2022 8 minutes ago, snowychap said: Thread: Yes that all looks entirely consistent with Tory policy and morals 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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