Chindie Posted May 23, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted May 23, 2017 5 minutes ago, leemond2008 said: Just had a message from sky news to say the terror alert has been raised to critical and that Theresa May has warned that the military could be deployed to the streets. Clicked on the message and can't find any more about it though. She'd not give it a second thought. Her wet dream, that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted May 23, 2017 Moderator Share Posted May 23, 2017 Terror alert level raised to critical, the highest possible level and an indication that they fear another attack may be imminent. Stay safe folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leemond2008 Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 Just now, Chindie said: She'd not give it a second thought. Her wet dream, that. Looks like it's correct, can't find anything about the military though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 Does anyone think this will be reopen the tapping phone debate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 Just now, Demitri_C said: Does anyone think this will be reopen the tapping phone debate? There won't be much debate. I'd be shocked if law enforcement weren't given intrusive new powers, even if there's nothing to suggest they'd have been useful in preventing this attack. May doesn't miss a chance to infringe on our civil liberties, and anyone who speaks out will be shouted down as aiding terrorists and endangering our children. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted May 23, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted May 23, 2017 5 minutes ago, leemond2008 said: Looks like it's correct, can't find anything about the military though The BBC is reporting that they will have the armed forces protecting 'key sites'. Clearly we aren't scared enough yet. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villanun Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 Just watched a press conference, military at major events and important locations as well as armed police. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted May 23, 2017 Moderator Share Posted May 23, 2017 5 minutes ago, leemond2008 said: Looks like it's correct, can't find anything about the military though It's confirmed, as a result of the change in threat level the Police have requested additional armed support from the army. Its pre planned in terms of s stategic move but it's still s pretty significant development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 Yaya toure and his agent donating 100k between them. Amazing gesture from them both. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted May 23, 2017 Moderator Share Posted May 23, 2017 Army support for Wembley and Twickenham this weekend I'd imagine plus airports and train stations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leemond2008 Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 I read that no bags will be allowed into the venue at all for the Brook v Spence fight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnbull Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 1 minute ago, TrentVilla said: Army support for Wembley and Twickenham this weekend I'd imagine plus airports and train stations. We're at Twickers for the Aviva Premiership final (COYW). It's reassuring to know that there'll be extra security measures, but having seen armed police and sniffer dogs at last years Redskins-Bengals game at Wembley, it all feels a bit surreal too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 Threat level raised in belief bomber has a network. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, leemond2008 said: I read that no bags will be allowed into the venue at all for the Brook v Spence fight Not even handbags? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 Has the armed forces been deployed like this before? They helped out in place of G4S as security at the Olympics, but this is the first time I can remember them being deployed in the place of police. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 Let's hope there's not another de Menezes situation where police get trigger happy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted May 23, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted May 23, 2017 FB post from a Yorkshire Muslim dude this evening: Quote I've never been one to mince my words and I don't intend to now: We Muslims need to take a long hard look at ourselves and ask what are we actually contributing to this country in return for the hospitality we are offered? Proclaiming that "Well, I'm in such and such a profession and also a Muslim" is of no value or significance. What we do as work is our job for the purposes of income. What have we benefited this country in the context of the faith that you and I proclaim to follow? How much longer can we tolerate **** child rapists in Rochdale & Halifax ? Drug dealing "bros" ravaging communities from Birmingham to Burnley? Idiot drivers from Blackburn to Rusholme? And now **** suicide bombers - may their parents be eaten by pigs. I think as a Muslim community we have come to a crossroads. We call ourselves religious but in practice we offer nothing of our faith to our hosts. Entire towns have become ghettos and communities from Batley to Bradford think it is acceptable to just live from cradle to the grave in the UK without any interaction with the wider community. Until we love our English hosts as we proclaim to love each other we will always fail. Either we change how we live here and abandon our insular ways or else we can expect to be increasingly unwelcome. As for the **** depraved scum who bomb children or prey on schoolgirls like those Rochdale taxi drivers.. I believe that every single member of their family should be immediately deported without trial or question. These depraved minds who can carry out such atrocities need to be made to think twice in their twisted minds that if they do what they plan, than every single member of their family will be deported without question. I don't really care who I upset with this post. We, as Muslims have reached a crossroads. Either we love and embrace or we can start looking for property on Pakistan's and Bangladesh's version of Rightmove. That's if the electricity there is working.. (Feel free to share) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted May 23, 2017 Moderator Share Posted May 23, 2017 Just now, Davkaus said: Has the armed forces been deployed like this before? They helped out in place of G4S as security at the Olympics, but this is the first time I can remember them being deployed in the place of police. Yes and no, they've been rumoured to have been used undercover on U.K. streets, particularly special forces but nothing ever this clear cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, mjmooney said: I agree, but it's very difficult. The wife of one of my ex-colleagues is a primary school teacher in Bradford. It's 90% kids from Muslim families, but a secular, state school. She's supposed to teach them about other religions, but when she attempts to, they (clearly instructed by their parents) refuse to listen, get upset, insist that only Islam is the true religion, and that anything else is Satanic. These are five year olds we're talking about, here. Where do you start? Having avoided a religious upbringing (Mum is a "Christian", but not really) and so not speaking with any expertise, it does seem that Islamic children/maybe even just people are the most closed-minded. During discussions about why the hell people believe in a God etc, my Muslim friends aren't able to explain why they practice Islam or why they believe in a God - it's just that way because it is. Of course, incredibly charitable and lovely people, but just... I don't know, lacking any individuality when it comes to religion? I do always find that aspect pretty uncomfortable - is it just brainwashing? I mean, it's good to question things even if you just end up maintaining your original point of view. Edit: My wording here might be terrible, but I'm tired :/ Edited May 23, 2017 by bobzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leemond2008 Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, snowychap said: Not even handbags? Maybe not, it says full body searches upon entry and no bags will be allowed inside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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