Grasshopper Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 (edited) So if Newcastle have done some serious stuff wrong with this Tax and NI contributions stuff they may get anything from being fined, pts reduction or refused entry to the PL. Effectively, that could mean 3rd place gets Automatic promotion and 4th-7th qualify for the playoffs. Where are we in the table? Why, if we couldnt get 6th, are we not 7th. The old adage, aim high, see how far you get, may have got us somewhere if Toon get stripped. I'll be even more annoyed than I already am about this seasons complete F****up Edited April 26, 2017 by Grasshopper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Villan_of_oz Posted April 26, 2017 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted April 26, 2017 (edited) Lol. Pretty sure they are targeting individuals within the club not the clubs themselves. Give up the witch hunt mate. Edited April 26, 2017 by Villan_of_oz 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Can you imagine how we'd get on in the Premier League, even with a summer to prepare? It'd be absolutely brutal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 11 minutes ago, Grasshopper said: So if Newcastle have done some serious stuff wrong with this Tax and NI contributions stuff they may get anything from being fined, pts reduction or refused entry to the PL. The last two options marked in bold won't happen. They might get a fine. Nothing to see here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, villa89 said: The last two options marked in bold won't happen. They might get a fine. Nothing to see here. There's basically no precedent for this. We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dAVe80 Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 4 minutes ago, villa89 said: The last two options marked in bold won't happen. They might get a fine. Nothing to see here. The powers that be have been looking for a big scalp to make an example of for a while, when it comes to financial irregularities. With the low esteem Mike Ashley is held in (mostly not relating to Newcastle, granted), I could see Newcastle being the victims of this. Their saving grace is the fact that they're a big draw, and attract larger TV audiences, which is ultimately what the money men want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 5 minutes ago, Davkaus said: There's basically no precedent for this. We'll see. I'd be shocked if the Football league or Premier League did anything here in the way of points deductions. They are inept organisations with no backbone and won't want any negative PR from something like tax fraud. Sweep it under the carpet and remind every one that Newcastle are a "Big Club" and the West Ham play football the "Right Way". Remember they are everyone's second or third favourite teams and everyone wants to see them win something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted April 26, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted April 26, 2017 11 minutes ago, villa89 said: The last two options marked in bold won't happen. They might get a fine. Nothing to see here. 180 officers investigating this. That's absolutely HUGE. These clubs would have had a financial advantage over clubs that do pay their taxes. I can easily see points deductions here. Where's my popcorn! Let's hope Karen Brady has her filthy trotters in some of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, dAVe80 said: The powers that be have been looking for a big scalp to make an example of for a while, when it comes to financial irregularities. Have they? It looks to me like they don't want anything to do with how clubs operate financially and barely enforce the terrible FFP rules that they have now. Leyton Orient, Leeds, Millwall, Blackpool, etc. are all examples of clubs with serious issues that are widely known and the football league do nothing of note. It'll be the same with Newcastle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wilko154 Posted April 26, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted April 26, 2017 26 minutes ago, Grasshopper said: So if Newcastle have done some serious stuff wrong with this Tax and NI contributions stuff they may get anything from being fined, pts reduction or refused entry to the PL. Effectively, that could mean 3rd place gets Automatic promotion and 4th-7th qualify for the playoffs. Where are we in the table? Why, if we couldnt get 6th, are we not 7th. The old adage, aim high, see how far you get, may have got us somewhere if Toon get stripped. I'll be even more annoyed than I already am about this seasons complete F****up Bruce should have known this was going to happen 7th was always going to get us up Bruce Out Something like that? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted April 26, 2017 Moderator Share Posted April 26, 2017 Quote 7th could have been enough? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted April 26, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted April 26, 2017 Absolutely loving the NUFC forums at the moment "Well, lads, we managed approximately 48 hours of happiness before the fckwits managing this club shat on us from a great height once again. " http://www.not606.com/threads/lee-charnley-arrested-by-hmrc.346901/page-2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 35 minutes ago, Davkaus said: Can you imagine how we'd get on in the Premier League, even with a summer to prepare? Champions? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted April 26, 2017 Author Share Posted April 26, 2017 Seems those on the "Forum of Delusion" are shitting themaelvesp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted April 26, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted April 26, 2017 Got a bad feeling... "HMRC said a few months ago that 43 players, 12 clubs in British leagues, and 8 agents were being investigated" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godders Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 11 minutes ago, Jareth said: Got a bad feeling... "HMRC said a few months ago that 43 players, 12 clubs in British leagues, and 8 agents were being investigated" What, a bad feeling about us? Has there been anything anywhere linking us with this investigation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted April 26, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted April 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, Godders said: What, a bad feeling about us? Has there been anything anywhere linking us with this investigation? None yet. But 12 British clubs being investigated, French link.... I only hope Tom Fox was too inept to have been capable of fraud. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godders Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 1 minute ago, Jareth said: None yet. But 12 British clubs being investigated, French link.... I only hope Tom Fox was too inept to have been capable of fraud. It may be misplaced naivety, but I can only conclude that it takes a certain amount of skill and foresight to carry out a fraud like this. Based on the skill and foresight the previous setup showed in running this club, I can only conclude that we have nothing to worry about. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dounavilla Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Does anybody really want Newcastle in this division we are desperately trying to get out of next season ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted April 26, 2017 Moderator Share Posted April 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, dounavilla said: Does anybody really want Newcastle in this division we are desperately trying to get out of next season ? They won't be denied promotion. There's no way. That punishment alone could come to hundreds of millions all things considered. I'd say the very very worst that could come to them would be starting next season on negative points. But I doubt even that would happen tbh. All IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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