tonyh29 Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, bickster said: I do still think the Lib Dem's will have a resurgence with Cable in charge though and that will come mainly at the expense of the Tories I thought Cable was found out during the 2010 election and turned out he wasn't the messiah , be interesting to see how he gets on this time around politically I thought the libs were closer to labour than Tory so it will be interesting to see where they get their votes ...Bath does suggest a Tory to Lib vote transfer though so perhaps Mays successor will have one more thing to worry about more importantly as Vince seems to also have engaged the younger voters in twickers , what chant will he get when he steals Corbyns spot at Glastonbury in a couple of years , oh Sir Vincent Cable doesn't really work with the White Stripes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted June 27, 2017 Moderator Share Posted June 27, 2017 12 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: I thought Cable was found out during the 2010 election and turned out he wasn't the messiah , be interesting to see how he gets on this time around politically I thought the libs were closer to labour than Tory so it will be interesting to see where they get their votes ...Bath does suggest a Tory to Lib vote transfer though so perhaps Mays successor will have one more thing to worry about more importantly as Vince seems to also have engaged the younger voters in twickers , what chant will he get when he steals Corbyns spot at Glastonbury in a couple of years , oh Sir Vincent Cable doesn't really work with the White Stripes The Hokey Cokey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 15 hours ago, tonyh29 said: it was in their manifesto that's a bit more than suggesting ... as we all know once it's in a manifesto it's cast in stone and can't be removed , cause nobody ever prior to 2017 has changed their mind or broken an election promise That's not the narrative and you know it. Anything in a Labour manifesto is "fantasy" and "unrealistic". We've heard it from our trustworthy government. Therefore, this whole potential referendum was obviously complete nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 (edited) 12 hours ago, tonyh29 said: politically I thought the libs were closer to labour than Tory so it will be interesting to see where they get their votes ...Bath does suggest a Tory to Lib vote transfer though so perhaps Mays successor will have one more thing to worry about I'd like to think that it was Ben Howlett (the Conservative incumbent) turning up at my barbecue the Saturday before the election that swung it, where i politely told him that canvassing me probably wouldn't be the best use of his limited time, but I wished him luck nonetheless. The sheer righteous fury of my argument probably crushed his spirit for the remainder of the campaign. Edited June 28, 2017 by ml1dch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted June 28, 2017 Moderator Share Posted June 28, 2017 1 hour ago, ml1dch said: I'd like to think that it was Ben Howlett (the Conservative incumbent) turning up at my barbecue the Saturday before the election that swung it, where i politely told him that canvassing me probably wouldn't be the best use of his limited time, but I wished him luck nonetheless. The sheer righteous fury of my argument probably crushed his spirit for the remainder of the campaign. I think my mates moving from London since the last election may have helped too Or the absolutely shocking statement he made in the run up to the election Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Coming from the same guy who claimed (on no less than 17 occasions) for fuel costs under £1 during the last GE (2015)? Talk about a need for scum to be utterly eradicated. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 He'll be one of the MPs that the conservative party will be financially supporting so that he doesn't suffer any "financial hardship" after losing his seat. I can't help but suspect that the only problem a lot of tories will have with that statement is that he was stupid enough to make it publicly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_avfc Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 48 minutes ago, bickster said: I think my mates moving from London since the last election may have helped too Or the absolutely shocking statement he made in the run up to the election As far as I can see this was never actually said. I think this fad for putting made up quotes next to pictures of famous people is pretty worrying but only another example of how easy it is to present fiction as fact to influence people. Feel free to correct me if there's any actual quotes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Do you need an MP that was/is truly grounded ? I think you do. Do you absolutely require an MP that can be easily out-witted by a goat in most board games and garden based Tom-foolery. Do you yearn for a local MP to be 50% badly formed and slightly waterlogged potato combined with quite a serious brain injury ? Ben Howlett ( word removed ), Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 (edited) I think that quote is completely made up. I sincerely doubt Ben Howlett would say that people on free school meals are 'scum' who 'need to be eradicated'. I'm just not seeing it. Edited June 28, 2017 by HanoiVillan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: I think that quote is completely made up. I sincerely doubt Ben Howlett would say that people on free school meals are 'scum' who 'need to be eradicated'. I'm just not seeing it. I can imagine the first paragraph being said, the second one very unlikely, the third one would be political suicide so seriously doubt it was said at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Well, it certainly seems like the kind of thing he'd think, even if he didn't say it, so that's good enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 That quote is 100% made up. No politician in their right mind would say something like it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 On 28/06/2017 at 14:19, tom_avfc said: As far as I can see this was never actually said. I think this fad for putting made up quotes next to pictures of famous people is pretty worrying but only another example of how easy it is to present fiction as fact to influence people. Feel free to correct me if there's any actual quotes. I think the use of the word "scum" gives away it's left wing origins . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 6 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: I think the use of the word "scum" gives away it's left wing origins . Why? And *its. Non singulars aren't possessive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 He'll be telling us it wasn't Thatcher that stole the milk from the mouths of small children next... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 15 minutes ago, darrenm said: Why? And *its. Non singulars aren't possessive. its just an observation , be it a Facebook rant , an angry demo , even a good chunk of the posts on here seem to include the word scum ... I assumed it was covered in chapter 1 of left wing policitcs for dummies or something such it's it's frequency 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 17 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: He'll be telling us it wasn't Thatcher that stole the milk from the mouths of small children next... You're a smart man and you already know she didn't ..... indirectly it was Heath not Thatcher .. the government demanded an end to free school milk , Thatcher got a compromise whereby nursery and primary schools kept it... Thatcher, Thatcher, she didn’t really snatch any milk and in fact tried hard to ensure it was still provided’... doesn't quite roll of the tongue does it of course Wilsons government scrapped free school milk in 1968 to all secondary schools ... for some reason that one has been airbrushed out of history ... can't imagine why 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 (edited) Thatcher, Thatcher - utter word removed. Veritably trips off the tongue. Edited July 1, 2017 by snowychap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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