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1 minute ago, Brumerican said:

Anybody else think we will boycott the World Cup ?

we boycotted the USA World Cup over events circa 1775 so no way we are going to forgive Russia so quickly 

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3 minutes ago, tonyh29 said:

we boycotted the USA World Cup over events circa 1775 so no way we are going to forgive Russia so quickly 

I thought that was in response to "Objects In The Rear View Mirror" by Meatloaf ?

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8 minutes ago, Brumerican said:

Anybody else think we will boycott the World Cup ?

We might not send Boris. Maybe. Possibly. Just a few minutes after hell freezes over.

Us not sending a diplomat to the World Cup is the absolute extent of our 'firm' reaction to events in Salisbury.

And we probably won't do that.

Russia can do what it likes in the UK provided there is the merest film of deniability. They know we aren't going to do anything, and they also know there's absolutely no political will to do much either, given Russian money in London etc etc.

It's hilarious watching them dance like we matter to Moscow.

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1 minute ago, Chindie said:

We might not send Boris. Maybe. Possibly. Just a few minutes after hell freezes over.

Us not sending a diplomat to the World Cup is the absolute extent of our 'firm' reaction to events in Salisbury.

And we probably won't do that.

Russia can do what it likes in the UK provided there is the merest film of deniability. They know we aren't going to do anything, and they also know there's absolutely no political will to do much either, given Russian money in London etc etc.

It's hilarious watching them dance like we matter to Moscow.

One dead  Russian spy in the middle of Red Square with a Yorkshire pudding stuffed in his mouth must be within our budget ?

 

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11 hours ago, Chindie said:

We might not send Boris. Maybe. Possibly. Just a few minutes after hell freezes over.

Us not sending a diplomat to the World Cup is the absolute extent of our 'firm' reaction to events in Salisbury.

And we probably won't do that.

Russia can do what it likes in the UK provided there is the merest film of deniability. They know we aren't going to do anything, and they also know there's absolutely no political will to do much either, given Russian money in London etc etc.

It's hilarious watching them dance like we matter to Moscow.

Spot on, nothing happened last time and nothing will happen now.

Personally I think we should not test Russias resolve, they could wipe us out if they want to. our government loves intervening in world affairs even when things dont concern us. 

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16 minutes ago, Brumerican said:

Our nukes aren't full of magic beans mate.

by the time we have reacted we would have been wiped out if the US dont back us we are screwed as we no longer have the EU to protect us 

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2 minutes ago, Demitri_C said:

by the time we have reacted we would have been wiped out if the US dont back us we are screwed as we no longer have the EU to protect us 

You might be wiped out .

I have had NBC training.:D

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I'm not sure the EU would be there to help us in that scenario if we'd spent the last 2 years pleasuring it. That's not what the EU is there for :)

Anyway everyone knows the UK is impotent in this. We have very few options to threaten Moscow and we aren't going to use any of them.

I certainly wouldn't want to be a Russian dissident at the moment. And definitely not one here.

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5 minutes ago, Demitri_C said:

by the time we have reacted we would have been wiped out if the US dont back us we are screwed as we no longer have the EU to protect us 

the EU don't protect us  ....

 

We are members of NATO , in theory  it would be NATO we turn to for support ... but they would probably cough , shuffle some papers and then look out the window and shout "oh look , squirrel"

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Craig Murray, who is sometimes worth listening to, has suggested the Salisbury thing isn't Russian.

I'm not sure he's right, but there we are. Some will lap it up because it uses the Mossad word.

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The Russian response to accusations that they deliberately sought to widen divisions inside America - when it goes beyond simple denial - is twofold. First, they argue that Russia is simply responding in kind to decades of US lead efforts to destabilise foreign governments it dislikes. Second, they point out that American democracy must be in a pretty parlous state if it can seriously undermined by a Russian operation with a supposed budget of a mere $1.25m a month.

Financial Times

This article is called - Russia, America and a contest of sick systems - If you want to try source it beyond the paywall?

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Democracy is only as strong as the people that form is foundation. The hat couple of years has shown the foundation is ****.

The Russian social media manipulation is obscenely simple. It just needs a bunch of people with decent standards of English. Which they have.

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