AntrimBlack Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 1 hour ago, rubberman said: I can understand the sentiment, and yes it was a disastrous time to be relegated, but I think this is a bit overdramatic. There will still always be 3 teams that get promoted and we will always be a bigger club down here - have bigger support and have better resources for developing kids etc - so (given the right manager) we would always be in the mix to go up. FFP constraints apply to all clubs in the division. But I agree it's depressing seeing the cash that the 'small' clubs in the PL can now splash about. A bigger club, but hanging around mid table. And supporters will become increasingly disinterested. Falling attendances, less sponsorship, less clout in the transfer market. Not a pleasant situation. And you cannot assume that we would always be in the mix to go up. We were not in the mix last season, and unless there is a dramatic upturn in our fortunes we will not be in the mix this season either. And that is with spending money and being a `big club'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 1 minute ago, Eastie said: Would give us the option of a different dimension to our game but at this stage of his career he'd want to be a starter - I'd still take him though . So would I 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killeen30 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 So no real sign of any outgoings today then? I thought we might have sold on Gardner and maybe another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 1 minute ago, Killeen30 said: So no real sign of any outgoings today then? I thought we might have sold on Gardner and maybe another. Barnsley after Gardner on loan - that's about it so far . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villabromsgrove Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 14 minutes ago, nazvfc said: If it dwindles then goodbye to those that only follow villa when they are winning or in the premier league. Different times but we've always had big crowds in the lower leagues. I'd rather we have the supporters that will support no matter what division we are in than those who are 'plastic' and only want to support us if winning or in the top league. Most of us 'old farts' were there in the 70's in division 3 and will be here no matter what! I don't think Villa have any plastic fans left naz. The only plastic left takes the form of season tickets and pacemakers! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted August 31, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted August 31, 2017 4 minutes ago, Eastie said: Would give us the option of a different dimension to our game but at this stage of his career he'd want to be a starter - I'd still take him though . Me too - I wanted us to get hi last January. I think he'd help get the best out of the rest of the team. Just look at the difference a 19 year old Davis made - but he can't play every game this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 1 minute ago, TheAuthority said: Me too - I wanted us to get hi last January. I think he'd help get the best out of the rest of the team. Just look at the difference a 19 year old Davis made - but he can't play every game this season. Not sure I would have wanted hi , but with Ho in high office it might have been a silver lining 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 If any player goes now it will be on loan and us paying most of the wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 So far the average age of the players we've signed on permanent deals so far this summer is 32.8 y.o Really hope we can Get Peter Crouch 36 y.o in so we can push it over 33 y.o. If you count loans it down to 29 thanks to Onomah. Crouch would push it over 30. #buildingforthefuture 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 We need to get Murphy on loan somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackbauer24 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 5 minutes ago, sne said: So far the average age of the players we've signed on permanent deals so far this summer is 32.8 y.o Really hope we can Get Peter Crouch 36 y.o in so we can push it over 33 y.o. If you count loans it down to 29 thanks to Onomah. Crouch would push it over 30. #buildingforthefuture Regardless of the age thing we're not building for future anyway. At absolute best we're going to need to replace Terry, Samba, Johnstone, Onomah and Snodgrass next year. You could easily also need to be replacing a few of the older ones (Whelen, Jedinak) and the promising ones (Kodjia, Green etc) who are disappointed we won't challenge for promotion. So I can see us needing basically a whole new team next year regardless of our divisional status. I'd rather we had Premier League money to do it so, as this is the route we've gone, I don't think a few more veterans can really hurt us if they can help us in the short term. We're on the brink and have all our eggs in one basket already so a few more won't make a difference. Personally I think we're scr*wed anyway now; wrong route, no plan and ever decreasing funds... good time to be a Villa Fan... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Czechlad said: We need to get Murphy on loan somewhere. I don't think he'll be far off our first team Edited August 31, 2017 by sir_gary_cahill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 43 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: Were you saying this when we signed them? I can't be arsed to go trawling through your posts from a year ago but I don't recall too many people kicking off about it then. Hindsight, great thing. As for the business SHA are doing, maybe best to wait and see how it pans out before putting it up against our own dealings as some form of shining example of how to do business. Ill save you the searching i basically said i have reservations of spending that sort of money on a 30 year old but would support the manager. As for tish i had no idea how good or bad it was. Its all good you saying "hindsight great thing" but its terrible business. Even che adams got more goals than mccormack and he cost 1.2m! Candleface as much as i dislike the bloke has done great business on paper. Jota is a good lil player at 6m bargain and they can double their money eithin a couple years if he continues his form. Meanwhile what return would we have made on mccormack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 1 minute ago, sir_gary_cahill said: I don't think he'll be far off our first team Kodjia, Hogan, Davis, and I guess Agbonlahor are all ahead of him it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 15 minutes ago, Czechlad said: Kodjia, Hogan, Davis, and I guess Agbonlahor are all ahead of him it seems. Agreed but Hepburn-Murphy has been injured a lot recently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 6 minutes ago, sir_gary_cahill said: Agreed but Hepburn-Murphy has been injured a lot recently True. I still think his best bet is going on loan where he will be a starter. Best case scenario he gets a few sub minutes and maybe a start in the cup. No way Bruce starts him over Hogan or Kodjia. Also now with Davis' good form, I just don't see Murphy getting minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 8 minutes ago, Czechlad said: True. I still think his best bet is going on loan where he will be a starter. Best case scenario he gets a few sub minutes and maybe a start in the cup. No way Bruce starts him over Hogan or Kodjia. Also now with Davis' good form, I just don't see Murphy getting minutes I think you are correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Breathe easy - Alex Bruce has joined Wigan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Phumfeinz Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 What happened to the 2-3 Xia said? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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