wilko154 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 1 minute ago, Eastie said: True , and the parachute payments for those relegated will be far more than we got at the time - it really is get up this season or face a long wait in my opinion . I honestly believe that if we don't go up this season we are finished as a competitive football club. We will just become a nobody in football as have Ipswich, Forest, Wednesday, Pompey, Leeds After this season the money becomes even tighter due to FFP. Most of our better players will realise that we are not going up and will leave to sides that will compete for promotion, others on higher wages will have to be sold to balance the books. God it's depressing when you think about it, but so far this season I can't see us being competitive enough in this league. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 McCormack staying according to the daily star as we want loan to a rival only permanent deal. Time to start using him brucie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 6 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: McCormack staying according to the daily star as we want loan to a rival only permanent deal. Time to start using him brucie Sensible decision. Can still contribute to this squad. Bruce needs to get over any issues from last year and get something out of him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael118 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 2 hours ago, Eastie said: Seems Harry is in for Wiltshire and Alex song too Alex Song is potentially a very good signing for them. It seems like he's been around forever but he's still only 29. I would have liked us to go for him. A far better player than Glenn Whelan in my opinion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberman Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 6 minutes ago, wilko154 said: I honestly believe that if we don't go up this season we are finished as a competitive football club. We will just become a nobody in football as have Ipswich, Forest, Wednesday, Pompey, Leeds After this season the money becomes even tighter due to FFP. Most of our better players will realise that we are not going up and will leave to sides that will compete for promotion, others on higher wages will have to be sold to balance the books. God it's depressing when you think about it, but so far this season I can't see us being competitive enough in this league. I can understand the sentiment, and yes it was a disastrous time to be relegated, but I think this is a bit overdramatic. There will still always be 3 teams that get promoted and we will always be a bigger club down here - have bigger support and have better resources for developing kids etc - so (given the right manager) we would always be in the mix to go up. FFP constraints apply to all clubs in the division. But I agree it's depressing seeing the cash that the 'small' clubs in the PL can now splash about. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 2 hours ago, Eastie said: Seems Harry is in for Wiltshire and Alex song too When we were linked with Wilshere recently Bruce suggested we would be interested as would most clubs but gave the impression that we had next to no chance of getting him (which is a slightly better chance than I thought we then had). I would guess the same applies to Small Heath now but if there is a 1% chance of him signing for them I want to see us giving him the option of signing for us instead. He is too good a player to be playing on the dark side of the city for a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Arsenal bidding £92m for lemar - the world has gone mad , even average players these days seem to be going for £20m plus in the premiership these days - how much would it take next summer to buy a team to compete if we do go up . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilko154 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 14 minutes ago, rubberman said: I can understand the sentiment, and yes it was a disastrous time to be relegated, but I think this is a bit overdramatic. There will still always be 3 teams that get promoted and we will always be a bigger club down here - have bigger support and have better resources for developing kids etc - so (given the right manager) we would always be in the mix to go up. FFP constraints apply to all clubs in the division. But I agree it's depressing seeing the cash that the 'small' clubs in the PL can now splash about. This is not true, when Leeds went down they were a 'big club', same with all of the clubs I mentioned previously. Unfortunately we are only just hanging onto our big club status... We currently have bigger support but this will dwindle over the next few years should we stay down in this division. It's noticeable at Villa Park already this season, a couple of losses and people stop coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, Eastie said: Arsenal bidding £92m for lemar - the world has gone mad , even average players these days seem to be going for £20m plus in the premiership these days - how much would it take next summer to buy a team to compete if we do go up . If Arsenal made the signings they needed to a few years ago, they'd probably have one of the best squads for £92m in total. This is a good example of being cheap in the short term hurting you financially in the long term. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post briny_ear Posted August 31, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2017 2 hours ago, Eastie said: Seems Harry is in for Wiltshire Buying a whole county is grandiose even for candle face. 6 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dounavilla Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 I have never enveyed the sha and never will. Envying your rival is their trait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 14 minutes ago, Eastie said: Arsenal bidding £92m for lemar - the world has gone mad , even average players these days seem to be going for £20m plus in the premiership these days - how much would it take next summer to buy a team to compete if we do go up . One hit wonder. Has he done anything since 2006? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dounavilla Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, sne said: One hit wonder. Has he done anything since 2006? He was decient on 'never mind the buzzcocks' and I enjoyed his rant on 'the word' at Shabba Ranks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keener window-cleaner Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 I'm still waiting for some of these fun deadline day stories, like the one when Odemwingie drove down to QPR on his own intitiative to push through a deal, but then had to drive back. Micah and Gabby - get in your cars!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted August 31, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted August 31, 2017 55 minutes ago, wilko154 said: I honestly believe that if we don't go up this season we are finished as a competitive football club. We will just become a nobody in football as have Ipswich, Forest, Wednesday, Pompey, Leeds After this season the money becomes even tighter due to FFP. Most of our better players will realise that we are not going up and will leave to sides that will compete for promotion, others on higher wages will have to be sold to balance the books. God it's depressing when you think about it, but so far this season I can't see us being competitive enough in this league. Which is why it is so important to create a sustainable, modern football club like Southampton did a decade ago and have forward thinking coaching staff like Wagner or Jokanović. I'm afraid that Wyness, RDM & Bruce have blown Tony's load on a feeble, outdated and ultimately ignorant approach to trying to get us promoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, Keener window-cleaner said: I'm still waiting for some of these fun deadline day stories, like the one when Odemwingie drove down to QPR on his own intitiative to push through a deal, but then had to drive back. Micah and Gabby - get in your cars!! Apparantly a West Ham player has had a medical and agreed terms at Rennes when West Ham have said he was even not for sale and had no permission to speak to them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 So just to summise, we aren't getting anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted August 31, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted August 31, 2017 1 minute ago, sir_gary_cahill said: So just to summise, we aren't getting anyone? Are you expecting to? We have more players than a Cockney bar! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Just now, Nigel said: Are you expecting to? We have more players than a Cockney bar! Haha you always make me laugh, a striker would've been nice but the manager obviously thinks we have enough 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villabromsgrove Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 10 minutes ago, sir_gary_cahill said: So just to summise, we aren't getting anyone? I'm genuinely hoping we're not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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