sir_gary_cahill Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 10 minutes ago, Phumfeinz said: The part that 19 is too young. Agreed that nobody should be relying on a 19 year old but we have enough talent in the squad that we wouldn't be relying on him. I'd much rather see us playing Green that springing cash on the likes of Downing. I agree with you, I think he could be outstanding but at the same time, I don't want to heap too much pressure on him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bannedfromHandV Posted June 22, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 22, 2017 4 hours ago, Zatman said: I do think Milner is very overrated by Villa fans if I am honest. He was a decent player with a brilliant engine but never got the hype that he was awesome for us Is anyone who no longer plays for us anything other than average in your eyes? I get that it's all about opinions but for you to say this about Milner suggests to me that we've been watching two entirely different sports....... 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 6 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: Is anyone who no longer plays for us anything other than average in your eyes? I get that it's all about opinions but for you to say this about Milner suggests to me that we've been watching two entirely different sports....... Barry, Young, Benteke, Mellberg, Laursen, Southgate, Freidel all quality players in a Villa jersey. Milner had one great season but 2 other average season with Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Re: John Terry. around 4 seasons ago he had the first of his "back problems" The next season he made one last hoorah effort and did really well. The following season Mourinho left him out a lot so he made it through the season. Last season, a new manager, and a new system along with his overall fitness meant he was "rested" a lot. This could go 2 ways 1 - The rest has done him good so he could pace himself for 25-30 games and be good for us 2 - come out blazing for 1, 2 or 3 games, get injured, then its season over. The financial risk is 1 - a problem for Tonys bank account 2 - down to Wyness's FFP calutaion I trust DrT's wallet but not Wyness's decision making. ---------------------- What this does for the team is another matter with a dodgy keeper, a young Bree backed up with Hutton (RDL ?????) Chester are only reliable CB, then Terry (Fitness) Jedi (Fitness) Baker (Injuries) and Taylor backed up by Amavi, I don't feel over confident to be honest. It may work - it may not. The thought of a back 3 with Hutton and Amavi as wing backs scares me. The thought of a back 3 becoming a back 5 with Jedi holding doesnt suggest to me that we'll be playing purposeful football. ---------------------------------- New GK Chester + 2 from Terry/Jedi/Baker Bree Taylor Lansbury Hourihane Adoma Hogan Kodjia I can live with as we have enough back up in RDL Amavi Thor Green Grealish & McC to make a go of it even if we dont get any new signings in. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 BTW................. Just got back from a few days working in Majorca. (I had the choice of coming back to the luxurious surroundings of Brum but decided on staying near Frankfurt for a while to soften the blow) Man, every where you go you see t-shirts with Messi on them, I asked a few locals who explained how good he is, he scores goals goals goals no matter who plays in the team with him. they just give him the ball then 2 minutes later its in the net. Can we not make a bid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post terrytini Posted June 22, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 22, 2017 Messi ? Nah. Past his prime, looking for a payday, dubious character. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dounavilla Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Grasshopper said: BTW................. Just got back from a few days working in Majorca. (I had the choice of coming back to the luxurious surroundings of Brum but decided on staying near Frankfurt for a while to soften the blow) Man, every where you go you see t-shirts with Messi on them, I asked a few locals who explained how good he is, he scores goals goals goals no matter who plays in the team with him. they just give him the ball then 2 minutes later its in the net. Can we not make a bid? Lack of height could be a problem and a risk having no prem/champ experience. Edited June 22, 2017 by dounavilla 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted June 22, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted June 22, 2017 8 minutes ago, dounavilla said: Lack of height could be a problem and a risk having no prem/champ experience. Also, look how our last so-called Barcelona wonderkid turned out; all style no substance. It's a no from me. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 23 minutes ago, alreadyexists said: Also, look how our last so-called Barcelona wonderkid turned out; all style no substance. It's a no from me. Apparently he is wanted in the Prem by West Ham etc. I think Traore is still way too young to have a definitive verdict on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted June 22, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted June 22, 2017 6 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Apparently he is wanted in the Prem by West Ham etc. I think Traore is still way too young to have a definitive verdict on. Ah, I was just joking mate; implying I wouldn't take Messi because Traore didn't pan out. For what it's worth I always quite liked Traore, in a different point in our history he could've been good and fitted in well... he was exciting to watch, young and athletic. Shame it didn't work out but I wish him the best. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermon Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 If we sign Terry I hope this will follow by some good Chelsea loan signings, sure good ol JT can swing something our way if he signs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 No thanks to Messi. I don't want a tax fraud in my team, no way. I want players who are in bed by 8pm, iron their moms clothes, don't drink and don't swear. Oh, and no sex before marriage! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted June 22, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted June 22, 2017 18 minutes ago, Rob182 said: , and no sex before marriage! Unless it's with a team mates wife obviously 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 4 hours ago, Zatman said: Barry, Young, Benteke, Mellberg, Laursen, Southgate, Freidel all quality players in a Villa jersey. Milner had one great season but 2 other average season with Villa Freidel wasn't that great for us. Solid enough but never reached the match winning displays he had at Blackburn. Lost all ability to save a penalty when he was with us aswell. Laursen is actually very similar to Milner for me, both had great seasons when they really were the heartbeat of the team and we massively struggled when both weren't playing for us. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 2 hours ago, Rob182 said: No thanks to Messi. I don't want a tax fraud in my team, no way. I want players who are in bed by 8pm, iron their moms clothes, don't drink and don't swear. Oh, and no sex before marriage! So I guess that also rules out Ronaldo and two of my summer signings wish list have bitten the dust before the end of June as a result! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael118 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 (edited) Traore 'never worked out' because he spent most of his time here and at Middlesbrough warming the bench under negative, unadventurous managers. Whoever signs him will be getting a player with huge potential who already can swing a game almost single-handedly. Edited June 23, 2017 by Michael118 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan_007 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 2 hours ago, Michael118 said: Traore 'never worked out' because he spent most of his time here and at Middlesbrough warming the bench under negative, unadventurous managers. Whoever signs him will be getting a player with huge potential who already can swing a game almost single-handedly. He had more than enough chances at boro which just cemented the fact the kid is purely a sprinter. 27 appearances, with him getting a good 11 / 12 full games on the bounce. 0 goals and 0 assists. Actually I think he got 1 assist. I find your player ratings genuinely entertaining. As how you have Bacuna and Traore down as good players is utterly baffling to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 10 hours ago, alreadyexists said: For what it's worth I always quite liked Traore, in a different point in our history he could've been good and fitted in well... he was exciting to watch, young and athletic. Shame it didn't work out but I wish him the best. Well I don't. In case you've forgotten the way he departed, after making one substitute appearance, he then refused, at the last minute, to get suited for a game because he didn't want to play in the Championship and forced a transfer. He allowed RDM to believe he would stay all summer only to jump ship at the last moment when it was difficult or impossible to replace him, and forced his transfer in the most unprofessional way possible (essentially by going on strike). I think he's a complete chunt and I hope his career is a complete disaster. 44 minutes ago, villan_007 said: 0 goals and 0 assists. Actually I think he got 1 assist. It bounced off his arse and he didn't know it had happened, but yes he managed one assist despite playing a clear majority of games. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Back on topic, I haven't been in here very much - are we currently linked with anyone except Terry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoof hearted Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 13 hours ago, Phumfeinz said: The part that 19 is too young. Agreed that nobody should be relying on a 19 year old but we have enough talent in the squad that we wouldn't be relying on him. I'd much rather see us playing Green that springing cash on the likes of Downing. I think Green showed me enough in his few games last season that he is more than capable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 17 hours ago, dounavilla said: In his last season when he played center midfield I thought he was superb and was thoroughly gutted when he left. This x 100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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