turvontour Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Goals We haven’t scored enough goals this season, simple as. I mentioned elsewhere that the team we fielded at Newcastle on Monday night contained just one player that had scored for us this season! Irrespective of the number of new signings, to me that’s a terrifying statistic. It was seeing Chris Samba’s goal scoring stats at his recent clubs – something like 8 goals in 50 games and It struck me, I can’t remember us having even one goal scoring defender (centre half or full back) in recent times. And, I’d even extend that to midfielders. So, who were our last proper 6-7 goal a season defenders? Lescott bundled a few home last season I recall? And our last proper 10 goal a season midfielders? I honestly can’t remember that, can only presume it was from the Barry, Milner, Young era . And I guess most importantly, why don’t we have them anymore? Few obvious reasons linked to recent demise of club be we still have a lot of corners for our defenders to attack, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reivax_Villa Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 (edited) Hmm The reason why we lack so many goals is because we don't have any continuity with our players and backroom staff. Because we continue to change things theres no fluidity or pattern in our play. We need a settled starting 11. When Bruce arrived we began to score and win a few games but for whatever reason we have had a drastic change with players and now we're back to the drawing board. We also got rid of Ayew and Gestede & McCormack.. Gestede and Ayew should not have went. The positive note is that if we stay up and bruce stays, we would be better prepared for next season that we was for this season. Edited February 24, 2017 by Reivax_Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Goals? No idea what they are mate, sorry. Oh hang on...are they those things that we concede? Nah, don't want any more of them tbf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turvontour Posted February 24, 2017 Author Share Posted February 24, 2017 1 hour ago, Reivax_Villa said: Hmm The reason why we lack so many goals is because we don't have any continuity with our players and backroom staff. Because we continue to change things theres no fluidity or pattern in our play. We need a settled starting 11. When Bruce arrived we began to score and win a few games but for whatever reason we have had a drastic change with players and now we're back to the drawing board. We also got rid of Ayew and Gestede & McCormack.. Gestede and Ayew should not have went. The positive note is that if we stay up and bruce stays, we would be better prepared for next season that we was for this season. I completely get the continuity argument. But I’m interested specifically as to why our defenders don’t score goals, is it because the team is bad and therefore only forward type players score the goals, or is the team bad because of symptoms like the defenders/midfielders not scoring goals, bit chicken or egg I suppose. Do Hutton, Amavi, Cissokho (mention him because he scored on his debut for his new club I believe) type fullbacks suddenly start crashing screamers in from range when we’re winning Alan Wright style, or are they simply not that type of full back? Do Chester, Elphick etc start scoring headers from corners, Southgate and Ehiogu style (I know harping back to happy times)? But what’s different, we still get 200 corners a season to attack? Have we just had a non-goal scoring group, or is it the training? The Bacuna example suggests it’s partly the training to me, as he was more or less free scoring when he arrived but has clearly lost that in the last few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Laursen was our last goalscoring defender, we looked dangerous at time with Clark, Collins and Dunne but never really enough to seriously threaten opposition as for goalscoring midfielder, from open play its been a long time. maybe since Hitzlsperger or Hendrie was in the team. I know Milner, Young and Barry got a good few goals but seemed like a good few was penalties or set-pieces 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashingqwerty Posted February 25, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted February 25, 2017 Last high scoring mid i can recall is platt... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turvontour Posted February 25, 2017 Author Share Posted February 25, 2017 7 hours ago, Zatman said: Laursen was our last goalscoring defender, we looked dangerous at time with Clark, Collins and Dunne but never really enough to seriously threaten opposition as for goalscoring midfielder, from open play its been a long time. maybe since Hitzlsperger or Hendrie was in the team. I know Milner, Young and Barry got a good few goals but seemed like a good few was penalties or set-pieces Id forgotten James Collins, he always went up for corners with purpose. Went on to score a load for West Ham too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junxs Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Didn't Liam Ridgewell score a hat trick for us once? Don't think he got many other than that freak game though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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a m ole Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 21 minutes ago, coda said: my favourite parts of that are "garygoalmachine@gmail.com" and the erratic nature of the scissors cutting through the phone number Wonderful detail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 41 minutes ago, coda said: could he really be any worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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