Popular Post Czechlad Posted August 10, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted August 10, 2017 2 hours ago, roadoftrinity said: I never thought we would manage to replace Lescott so quickly Jesus it's one match in godawful conditions. This was his first professional match at center back in a year. This is what is wrong with our club. All of you so called supporters. You all turn on a player after one poor performance and write him off. Then when the player misplaces one pass or misses a tackle, suddenly the boo boys come out and key board warriors spring into action saying he is the worst player to ever wear a Villa shirt or he is comparable to one of our worst signings in recent years. BACK OUR PLAYERS. I am not saying Samba should be immune to criticism, but don't just go 0 to 100 with your opinions. We won the match and only conceded 1 goal, but no clearly he is terrible and will be terrible all season. Let's ignore that fact that the pitch made the ball barely move in spots, but no Samba is just a terrible footballer. I hate this. We turn on our players so fast and then they play with a target on their backs all season. How can you as a footballer feel confident when you know one mediocre match and suddenly the fans hate you? 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 that penalty was a shocker. the type Ridgewell used to concede Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy_Lion Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 19 hours ago, Czechlad said: Jesus it's one match in godawful conditions. This was his first professional match at center back in a year. I agree, he wasn't awful in that match he just had a few bad spells during the game. The weather made the ball really quick and I think he struggled with that BUT I am still pleased we have him at the club and I think he will be a really useful player for us this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carewjust4u Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 20 hours ago, Czechlad said: I hate this. We turn on our players so fast and then they play with a target on their backs all season. How can you as a footballer feel confident when you know one mediocre match and suddenly the fans hate you? This is how I feel a lot recently on this site. I understand that as fans we are all entitled to our opinion(s), but how can you really call yourself a "support"er if you are so eager to disproportionately criticise the players...as you said it does nothing to help/support them play better. Confidence and support breeds results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 6 minutes ago, carewjust4u said: This is how I feel a lot recently on this site. I understand that as fans we are all entitled to our opinion(s), but how can you really call yourself a "support"er if you are so eager to disproportionately criticise the players...as you said it does nothing to help/support them play better. Confidence and support breeds results. This site would be boring as hell if everyone just said positive lies because it's meant to be good. He was crap in that game, especially the first half. Nothing wrong with sharing that opinion on a fan forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carewjust4u Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 7 minutes ago, DCJonah said: This site would be boring as hell if everyone just said positive lies because it's meant to be good. He was crap in that game, especially the first half. Nothing wrong with sharing that opinion on a fan forum. I agree with you on both points, but I'm more attacking the negative-criticise mentality that rears its head often. I'd point to our own fans booing in pre-season as a testament. Surely you understand what i'm on about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, carewjust4u said: I agree with you on both points, but I'm more attacking the negative-criticise mentality that rears its head often. I'd point to our own fans booing in pre-season as a testament. Surely you understand what i'm on about? Yeah I think we need to be positive at home and away (although I fully understand why some do at times) I just think sharing honest opinions on sites like this are fine. It's what they're about. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 20 minutes ago, carewjust4u said: This is how I feel a lot recently on this site. I understand that as fans we are all entitled to our opinion(s), but how can you really call yourself a "support"er if you are so eager to disproportionately criticise the players...as you said it does nothing to help/support them play better. Confidence and support breeds results. Add the Manager to that too. It does make a mockery of the term 'supporter' doesn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carewjust4u Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Just now, DCJonah said: Yeah I think we need to be positive at home and away (although I fully understand why some do at times) I just think sharing honest opinions on sites like this are fine. It's what they're about. Yes mate, I totally agree...it was more aimed at the over-dramatic and relentless criticism. There's a difference between sharing an opinion and a hysterical witch-hunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 47 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Yeah I think we need to be positive at home and away (although I fully understand why some do at times) I just think sharing honest opinions on sites like this are fine. It's what they're about. I just hate seeing people jump to crazy conclusions are one match. It's fair to criticize Samba for how he performed. He was not great, and gave up a silly pen, but I am not going to be saying that one match in terrible conditions now is all I need to know that he is crap and was a terrible signing by us. That is my issue. I don't want our players thinking that the fans will turn on them the second they make one mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 22 hours ago, Zatman said: that penalty was a shocker. the type Ridgewell used to concede Agreed. It was laughably bad, a complete hack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 35 minutes ago, Czechlad said: I just hate seeing people jump to crazy conclusions are one match. It's fair to criticize Samba for how he performed. He was not great, and gave up a silly pen, but I am not going to be saying that one match in terrible conditions now is all I need to know that he is crap and was a terrible signing by us. That is my issue. I don't want our players thinking that the fans will turn on them the second they make one mistake. Didnt you make same criticism in Bjarnason thread from the same game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Samba had contrasting halves on Wednesday night. First half he was catastrophic - second half he was immense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Zatman said: Didnt you make same criticism in Bjarnason thread from the same game? Birkir has played 10 matches for us now. Samba has only played 1. If you read, my point is 2 hours ago, Czechlad said: I just hate seeing people jump to crazy conclusions are one match As you can see, Samba = 1. Birkir >1. I think it's okay to start forming an opinion on Birkir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 5 hours ago, Czechlad said: Birkir has played 10 matches for us now. Samba has only played 1. If you read, my point is As you can see, Samba = 1. Birkir >1. I think it's okay to start forming an opinion on Birkir. We have seen Samba play abot 100 times so dont see difference. Gabby made him look shit in a semi final over 7 years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Just shows how decieving Pre-season can be. Said player looks good in preseason. 1st full game, conceeds penalty and looks awful in 1st half. A good performance in 2nd half suggests 1 - slower paced/settled game suits him better 2 - has mental strength to overcome mistakes but the defining question is Is Samba's role (super-sub - backup CB - CB) one that could be of a top2 team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Odd how he didn't play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdistheword Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 17 minutes ago, mikeyp102 said: Odd how he didn't play Will be on the bench Friday. Didn't want to risk him not being able to play in that game if he needs to come on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 23, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted August 23, 2017 On 8/12/2017 at 11:06, Grasshopper said: Just shows how decieving Pre-season can be. It shows that pre-season should be almost completely ignored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: It shows that pre-season should be almost completely ignored. Disagree. The issues highlighted in pre season became the same issues that saw us bottom of the league after 3 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts