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8 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said:

We were far more of a threat when he was on the pitch. 

Sadly the most important attribute for our attacker as far as our manager is concerned seem to be that he is good at heading away defensive corners.

So Hogan doesn't really fit the bill.

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On 16/12/2017 at 20:24, omariqy said:

 Madness not to start him and just say Scott this is your chance. The shirt is yours to take. Trusting a false no 9 over him is terrible management.

Or the fact that he has been out injured and probably couldn't last a full game.

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13 hours ago, PompeyVillan said:

The only problem with Scott Hogan is that he is completely useless. 

So we could play him, but he is actually rubbish. In summary it's probably best to not play him because he's awful.

The problem is 80% of the time he has played we have been hoofing up the pitch and clearly he is not a target man. The more we play possession football along the ground the more Scott can have an positive impact for us, he hasn't turned into a bad player over night or just because you or anyone else say he is.

Connor was awful to start with and after a run of games proved he has worth, Lansbury still hasn't quite proved that either. Only a run of games and an end to hoof ball can prove if Scott has a future with us, I don't know the answer to that but I would prefer Bruce stops looking for excuses and FFP and better coaches what we have already spanked huge sums of money on. We have already made a 12mil loss on Ross.

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2 hours ago, mikeyp102 said:

Or the fact that he has been out injured and probably couldn't last a full game.

Or start him and swap him for Gabby if he's struggling. Not set up your team to keep it tight and nick one. We show teams so much respect. Every press conference is we know what the other team is capable of. **** that. What are we capable of? 

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8 hours ago, omariqy said:

Every press conference is we know what the other team is capable of. **** that. What are we capable of? 

Every press conference or interview is just the same old whining excuses of shite.

Chasing promotion -  so let's play with no strikers!?

Say no more.

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8 minutes ago, Stevo985 said:

It's funny that Hogan being shit is down to Bruce's management of him.

But Davis being good is down to blind luck.

Weird that...

I think most people can see that it is a bit of both in both cases. Hogan has been poor partly down to tactics and partly down to his inability to adapt and get into games. Davis has done well because of the way we play and his ability to hold up the ball, first touch, control and smart play. However, Bruce's one dimensional tactics has also had a negative impact on Davis as well. We are far too reliant on him and it has meant that he is knackered and probably isn't progressing as an all round footballer as much as you would hope. 

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17 minutes ago, omariqy said:

I think most people can see that it is a bit of both in both cases. Hogan has been poor partly down to tactics and partly down to his inability to adapt and get into games. Davis has done well because of the way we play and his ability to hold up the ball, first touch, control and smart play. However, Bruce's one dimensional tactics has also had a negative impact on Davis as well. We are far too reliant on him and it has meant that he is knackered and probably isn't progressing as an all round footballer as much as you would hope. 

I agree with you.

But such a balanced view is a rarity here these days.

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I actually thought hogan did ok when he came on to be honest. I think the tactics used on saturday would have benefitted hogan more strange that he never started.

Hogan should start saturday with same midfield.  Bring davis in for onomah and lets see how we get on.

I know it never worked last time but that was one game.cant give up on that. Gabby being back as well is handy as he can come on for davis when he gets tired.

Im going to give hogan some time bruce needs to start starting him now

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4 hours ago, Stevo985 said:

It's funny that Hogan being shit is down to Bruce's management of him.

But Davis being good is down to blind luck.

Weird that...

It's not, in fact put the two things together and there is a pattern.

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5 minutes ago, TheStagMan said:

It's not, in fact put the two things together and there is a pattern.

My point was that Davis' good performances are put down as luck because Bruce was forced to use him.

Yet Hogan's poor performances get put down as Bruce's fault because he isn't using him properly.

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It does kinda follow a pattern.

We sell our target man (the awful Gestede) and try using wee Hogan in his place.

We finally try and play with a bit more possession higher up the field against Derby only to play without a forward to make intelligent runs or have the movement to create opportunities for his teammates.

It's the Steve Bruce Bizarro World of attacking.

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It's clear he wasn't signed as a "target man" to win headers and hold the ball up - he was signed as a better version of Gabby. Someone to harry defenders and chase down loose balls, run the flanks and give us an outlet, while scoring a few goals as well, basically, what Gabby used to do before he effectively retired a few years ago. He has the attributes to do it, he is quick, relatively strong, eye for a goal (before we signed him), good movement. 

The problem with him isn't solely Bruce's tactics, it's that he hasn't done any of those things. He struggles to even bring the ball under control from a 5 yard pass for heavens sake. 

He needs to sort himself out or he will end a monumental failure here and any aspirations he may have had for PL football in his career will be over. Fact is, if someone knew nothing of our team prior to him signing and you pointed out him and Gabby and said one of them is a £12m striker, the other is a useless sack of crap everyone can't wait to leave, they'd currently have them confused. 

If you're a professional striker and a worse option for your team than Gabby Agbonlahor in 2017 you need to take a long hard look at yourself and put in a few extra hours on the training pitch. 

Whatever the reasons are, he is simply not good enough at the moment and the only person who can change that is him, blaming the tactics, blaming luck, blaming Bruce, blaming bloody Santa is pointless, he needs to do it himself 

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