New_Hope Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Agent Hogan to be deployed to stop Sheffield United's playoff push! Very underhand but I like it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, New_Hope said: Agent Hogan to be deployed to stop Sheffield United's playoff push! Very underhand but I like it! I know ...getting rid of hogan is like signing 2 players...hope its in the contract that he has to play ..!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted January 29, 2019 Visiting Supporter Share Posted January 29, 2019 (edited) As a Bristol City fan, I’m disappointed that Sheff Utd seem to be signing Hogan, rather than us. Evidently most of you think he is pants. Yet most of us have seen him being excellent for Brentford. So has he dropped radically after his injuries? Or has the “Villa effect” ruined another expensive acquisition? Edited January 29, 2019 by Leveller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 An utter disaster of a signing. A complete panic buy of a player who had a purple patch. We were well and truly done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, Leveller said: As a Bristol City fan, I’m disappointed that Sheff Utd seem to be signing Hogan, rather than us. Evidently most of you think he is pants. Yet most of us have seen him being excellent for Brentford. So has he dropped radically after his injuries? Or has the “Villa effect” ruined another expensive acquisition? He just isn't very good. He barely touches the ball, his first touch and passing is abysmal and his finishing is vastly overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted January 29, 2019 Visiting Supporter Share Posted January 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, DCJonah said: He just isn't very good. He barely touches the ball, his first touch and passing is abysmal and his finishing is vastly overrated. But he used to be excellent. So what happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, Leveller said: But he used to be excellent. So what happened? I think he had a purple spell where the design of the team, confidence and manager's faith all aligned for him to do well. One hit wonder. Partly he has been unllucky initially, as after buying him, Bruce played him in a completely different formation, asking different roles that he was ill suited to play in the first place, which was therefore a waste of everyone's time. Confidence dropped, some injuries, and lack of chance to settle into a side geared up for him have done the rest. Now he's behind Tammy Abraham, ( obviously ) and offers nothing new. Even with Dean Smith here, he's evidently not impressing well enough in training. I don't like to see players struggle or fail so I hope he does do well - aside from where it hinders Villa obviously - elsewhere, but I suspect he peaked and was sold when his value was at it's highest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 9 minutes ago, Leveller said: But he used to be excellent. So what happened? He had one small spell of excellence. The fact is he is not an excellent player at this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted January 29, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 29, 2019 Gets some of his wages off the book at least. If he does find his shooting boots at least someone (relegated team?) may take a punt in the summer but more likely he comes back here after scoring very little and we keep paying him till his contract expires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted January 29, 2019 Visiting Supporter Share Posted January 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, DCJonah said: He had one small spell of excellence. The fact is he is not an excellent player at this level. But two clubs currently above you in the table are apparently fighting over him. Interesting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weedman Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 12 minutes ago, Leveller said: But he used to be excellent. So what happened? He was never really excellent, he had 1 patch of fantastic form that he has never come close to repeating as he lacks certain attributes, such as the ability to control the ball, or pass, or shoot, or head it. Other than that he's OK, apart from being quite injury prone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weedman Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, Leveller said: But two clubs currently above you in the table are apparently fighting over him. Interesting. On loan, which says a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 9 minutes ago, Leveller said: But two clubs currently above you in the table are apparently fighting over him. Interesting. Great. The money we've wasted on him is incredible. Maybe he can have another good spell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Hogan leaving... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 29, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 29, 2019 48 minutes ago, Leveller said: But he used to be excellent. So what happened? He had a very good 30 game spell for Brentford. He has never been excellent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 37 minutes ago, Leveller said: But two clubs currently above you in the table are apparently fighting over him. Interesting. Chelsea were at one point last season trying to sign Crouch and Andy Carroll last January. It's a window with very much short term ideas. January for a good few years now has been the "who is someone shit enough that clubs will be willing to let leave who can maybe hopefully possibly do a job" window 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Leveller said: But he used to be excellent. So what happened? Steve Bruce... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Rodders said: I think he had a purple spell where the design of the team, confidence and manager's faith all aligned for him to do well. One hit wonder. Partly he has been unllucky initially, as after buying him, Bruce played him in a completely different formation, asking different roles that he was ill suited to play in the first place, which was therefore a waste of everyone's time. Confidence dropped, some injuries, and lack of chance to settle into a side geared up for him have done the rest. Now he's behind Tammy Abraham, ( obviously ) and offers nothing new. Even with Dean Smith here, he's evidently not impressing well enough in training. I don't like to see players struggle or fail so I hope he does do well - aside from where it hinders Villa obviously - elsewhere, but I suspect he peaked and was sold when his value was at it's highest One hit wonder like Vanilla ice?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 5 minutes ago, AvfcRigo82 said: Steve Bruce... Yes wait till 1st February and sheffield Wednesday, take note of how many players get ruined and get binned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 29, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 29, 2019 14 minutes ago, Dave-R said: Yes wait till 1st February and sheffield Wednesday, take note of how many players get ruined and get binned. Yeah all of our players have suddenly thrived since Bruce left. Hogan is banging in goals, the defenders can actually defend and the midfield are controlling games. Oh wait... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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