sidcow Posted July 9, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted July 9, 2018 1 hour ago, mikeyp102 said: Injured again!!! What kind of injury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 6 hours ago, CosmicVillan said: I don't think it makes any difference I was thinking more for selling purposes 5 hours ago, sidcow said: What kind of injury? Groin apparently, had it all summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted August 8, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted August 8, 2018 Anyone got any thoughts on if these new players /potential tactical changes could help Hogan (assuming he ever gets fit)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyVillan Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 4 minutes ago, sidcow said: Anyone got any thoughts on if these new players /potential tactical changes could help Hogan (assuming he ever gets fit)? Probably not, he's not particularly good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 He’s not going anywhere so I hope he can do the business this season, hopefully he’ll be refreshed once he gets back to full fitness. With enough quality around him he should be able to finish off most chances. If he doesn’t perform, then it should be his last season with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 he can't put the ball in the net. dont think the supply line will make much difference. technically he is very poor...falls over, the ball bounces off him, and gets caught offside a lot. if we could iam sure we would get rid. dont see much game time for him this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condimentalist Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Crap signing. Already 4th choice in my mind for the campaign ahead and you'd have to imagine we'll add at least one up top. Can't see anyone taking him though and not much point loaning him out unless its to Scotland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted August 15, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted August 15, 2018 I'm looking forward to seeing him back with this attacking line up. I think his positioning will aid us more than last year as more play will come through the middle. In the current squad he would be my 1st choice. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, Nigel said: I'm looking forward to seeing him back with this attacking line up. I think his positioning will aid us more than last year as more play will come through the middle. In the current squad he would be my 1st choice. I can't agree here. based on what would you have him as your preferred starter? I think he is a pretty limited player tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carewjust4u Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, Nigel said: I'm looking forward to seeing him back with this attacking line up. I think his positioning will aid us more than last year as more play will come through the middle. In the current squad he would be my 1st choice. If we keep the ball on the deck I wholeheartedly agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted August 15, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted August 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, osmark86 said: I can't agree here. based on what would you have him as your preferred starter? I think he is a pretty limited player tbh. Based on watching all our options and how they play. I'm not saying he would be perfect just that his skill set would offer us the best chance to score goals. Specifically he is the only one of our strikers who plays on the shoulder of the last defender consistently. You know where he will be. This would be a lot better for a team coming through the middle, better than say kodjia that will often come to the flanks or drop back to get the ball. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 23 minutes ago, Nigel said: Based on watching all our options and how they play. I'm not saying he would be perfect just that his skill set would offer us the best chance to score goals. Specifically he is the only one of our strikers who plays on the shoulder of the last defender consistently. You know where he will be. This would be a lot better for a team coming through the middle, better than say kodjia that will often come to the flanks or drop back to get the ball. The big flaw is when he receives the ball he struggles to control it, invariably falls over, the ball bounces off him or he is offside - throw in the fact that he has scored in total around 7 goals here , and picks up a fair quota of long term injuries - there are a whole myriad of obstacles to Hogan getting near the first 11 - let alone scoring in it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted August 15, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted August 15, 2018 21 minutes ago, hippo said: The big flaw is when he receives the ball he struggles to control it, invariably falls over, the ball bounces off him or he is offside - throw in the fact that he has scored in total around 7 goals here , and picks up a fair quota of long term injuries - there are a whole myriad of obstacles to Hogan getting near the first 11 - let alone scoring in it. As i said, not perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Nigel said: I'm looking forward to seeing him back with this attacking line up. I think his positioning will aid us more than last year as more play will come through the middle. In the current squad he would be my 1st choice. As long as we don't use those long balls for him to bring down and hold up. We need McGinn and Grealish to be popping balls through and the wingers hitting crosses low and hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 15 minutes ago, Dick said: As long as we don't use those long balls for him to bring down and hold up. We need McGinn and Grealish to be popping balls through and the wingers hitting crosses low and hard. Statistically - you do realise the long ball argument doesn't hold up ? - From memory villa played the 3rd fewest long balls last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, hippo said: Statistically - you do realise the long ball argument doesn't hold up ? - From memory villa played the 3rd fewest long balls last season. I'd say that most of the time when Hogan came on, we were chasing the game. When we chase the game we definitely panic and hit long. Even last night against Yeovil we were hitting Adomah regularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 15, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted August 15, 2018 Doesn't matter what the question is, Hogan isn't the answer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 10 minutes ago, Dick said: I'd say that most of the time when Hogan came on, we were chasing the game. When we chase the game we definitely panic and hit long. Even last night against Yeovil we were hitting Adomah regularly. Not so sure - we only lost 3 home games last season. Hogan featured in a fair few home games other than those. I would agree though its pretty useless bringing on Hogan when you are in need of a goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, hippo said: Not so sure - we only lost 3 home games last season. Hogan featured in a fair few home games other than those. I would agree though its pretty useless bringing on Hogan when you are in need of a goal. Do you not agree that we need more defence splitting balls, low crosses and creative okay to benefit Hogan and Kodjia? Kodjia gets so frustrated he tries to do it all himself Also, I'd probably say long ball is the wrong term, high ball makes more sense. Balls aimed at players head and chest. Edited August 15, 2018 by Dick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 27 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Doesn't matter what the question is, Hogan isn't the answer. Starter for ten, which striker did Aston Villa bizarrely waste £12m on in January of 2017? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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