Mic09 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 2 hours ago, KenjiOgiwara said: Honestly think he is one of the worst midfielders I've seen for this club the last 30 years. I agree. He isn't technically or pacey enough to play on the wing. He is a poor passer of the ball so he can't play in midfield. He's main attribute is work rate, but we already have McGinn and McGinn is also much more technical and skillful than Birkir. At best Birkir is backup for McGinn, but let's hope it won't come to that and we sign Marvelous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonsi77 Posted July 30, 2019 Visiting Supporter Share Posted July 30, 2019 31 minutes ago, villalad21 said: I agree. He isn't technically or pacey enough to play on the wing. He is a poor passer of the ball so he can't play in midfield. He's main attribute is work rate, but we already have McGinn and McGinn is also much more technical and skillful than Birkir. At best Birkir is backup for McGinn, but let's hope it won't come to that and we sign Marvelous. I know you love Iceland my norwegian friend. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Jonsi77 said: I know you love Iceland my norwegian friend. He needs a map!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonsi77 Posted July 30, 2019 Visiting Supporter Share Posted July 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, TRO said: He needs a map!! I live in san fransisco part of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Jonsi77 said: I live in san fransisco part of the year. perhaps I need one then? Edited July 30, 2019 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonsi77 Posted July 30, 2019 Visiting Supporter Share Posted July 30, 2019 1 minute ago, TRO said: perhaps I need one then? There are lots of scandinavian people living in san frans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jonsi77 said: There are lots of scandinavian people living in san frans. its a good city, if you have heart trouble. Tony Bennett...... left his there Edited July 30, 2019 by TRO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Stevo985 said: Thor > Taylor > Hogan Workings: Thor isn't very good. But he's managed to perform well on occasion for Aston Villa, he has a good attitude and workrate and showed at least some value. I just think he's been poor for most of his time here and he's nowhere near good enough for the Prem. Taylor is basically the same as Thor. Not very good, but attitude and workrate is fine. I just think he's slightly worse than Thor. Hogan is similar, nothing wrong with his attitude and workrate, he just lacks ability. The difference with him is that he has never done anything of value in an Aston Villa shirt and he was far more expensive. He's by far the biggest flop of the three. It's expectations. Hogan cost more than the other two combined and has done very little at this time here. It increasingly looks like he had one good season at Brentford and is a mid range champioship striker at best. Not one of our better signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 1 hour ago, The Fun Factory said: It's expectations. Hogan cost more than the other two combined and has done very little at this time here. It increasingly looks like he had one good season at Brentford and is a mid range champioship striker at best. Not one of our better signings. bit like Vydra at Burnley.....it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 3 hours ago, Stevo985 said: Thor > Taylor > Hogan Workings: Thor isn't very good. But he's managed to perform well on occasion for Aston Villa, he has a good attitude and workrate and showed at least some value. I just think he's been poor for most of his time here and he's nowhere near good enough for the Prem. Taylor is basically the same as Thor. Not very good, but attitude and workrate is fine. I just think he's slightly worse than Thor. Hogan is similar, nothing wrong with his attitude and workrate, he just lacks ability. The difference with him is that he has never done anything of value in an Aston Villa shirt and he was far more expensive. He's by far the biggest flop of the three. That's not really true IMO. He was 'valuable' around about the same time as Thor, when winning 7 in a row under Bruce. At which point he was unceremoniously binned off for Grabban, who is undoubtedly a better striker at that level but yanno. I agree with your order though. Absolutely none of them are Premier League quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonsi77 Posted July 30, 2019 Visiting Supporter Share Posted July 30, 2019 1 hour ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: That's not really true IMO. He was 'valuable' around about the same time as Thor, when winning 7 in a row under Bruce. At which point he was unceremoniously binned off for Grabban, who is undoubtedly a better striker at that level but yanno. I agree with your order though. Absolutely none of them are Premier League quality. Neil Taylor played 131 games for Swansea in PL with avarage rating around 7. At least good squad player - not surprise if he will be starter for a 15 - 20 games. Targett has to show me lot more to change my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 This thread is like the Kozak one, where one fan who was the same nationality consistently defended an awful player. Thor is garbage. You saw it straight away on his debut and it hasn't changed much since. No chance he features this season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, DCJonah said: This thread is like the Kozak one, where one fan who was the same nationality consistently defended an awful player. Thor is garbage. You saw it straight away on his debut and it hasn't changed much since. No chance he features this season yea but....didnt u listen to @Jonsi77?, he's got experience at something or something which makes him good or something? u need to rethink, ur not considering the stuff that Jonsi said, if something like that cant change ur mind, then.....well.......maybe something cant change ur mind after all, u mad or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 30, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted July 30, 2019 1 hour ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: That's not really true IMO. He was 'valuable' around about the same time as Thor, when winning 7 in a row under Bruce. At which point he was unceremoniously binned off for Grabban, who is undoubtedly a better striker at that level but yanno. I think time has clouded your memory. That’s not what happened. He scored a couple of goals and earned a run in the team, and then did nothing in that run and was gradually phased out for a far superior striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 30, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted July 30, 2019 56 minutes ago, Jonsi77 said: Neil Taylor played 131 games for Swansea in PL with avarage rating around 7. At least good squad player - not surprise if he will be starter for a 15 - 20 games. Targett has to show me lot more to change my opinion. Neil Taylor is shitter than Bjarnason. And that’s saying something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 7 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: I think time has clouded your memory. That’s not what happened. He scored a couple of goals and earned a run in the team, and then did nothing in that run and was gradually phased out for a far superior striker. Yep I'd struggle to call his contribution valuable. Maybe in 1 or 2 games at a push. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonsi77 Posted July 30, 2019 Visiting Supporter Share Posted July 30, 2019 26 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Neil Taylor is shitter than Bjarnason. And that’s saying something. Alright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakotaDakota Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 (edited) His goal/assist output is actually pretty reasonable considering he isn't a regular starter. A goal or assist every 6 appearances despite only averaging 50 minutes or so per game & plenty of sub appearances in just about every position other than keeper. We have had our share of more attacking players with worse records than that. Is he shit, no, Is he good enough to be a regular starter in the prem, no, Is he good enough to be an occasional sub when you need someone to run around and potentially create something for 15 minutes. Probably. Edited July 30, 2019 by LakotaDakota Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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