sne Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 I kinda think Jedinak is a shit player... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Just now, BOF said: The sin is not in giving out high wages. The sin is in giving it to shit players. Unless people are against high wages and want to remain at our current level. Mmmmm, personally think it's both. After all, you can't think/know that a new signing will be "shit". For example, Hourihane might not work out for us but we're going to chuck 30k/wk at him to test him out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One For The Road Posted January 23, 2017 Author Share Posted January 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, BOF said: I doubt Gardner's contract is breaking the bank. A 4 year contract in itself is not a problem. Hindsight will tell us whether Jedinak was a mistake, but so far I don't think he has been, and with his new midfield partners I think he might thrive. But 55k a week in the Championship is just bonkers. If he is in that much of course. Putting 32 year olds on that sort of money surely puts a strain on us in terms of FFP as there will be no sell on value. I just worry that we aren't learning our lessons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 I'm not surprised. if we don't get out of the championship in the next two years I think we will be in major trouble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 1 minute ago, PaulC said: I'm not surprised. if we don't get out of the championship in the next two years I think we will be in major trouble oh definitely. irrespective of our wage bill, we'll be in major trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted January 23, 2017 Moderator Share Posted January 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, One For The Road said: But 55k a week in the Championship is just bonkers. If he is in that much of course. Putting 32 year olds on that sort of money surely puts a strain on us in terms of FFP as there will be no sell on value. I just worry that we aren't learning our lessons. He's on a 3 year contract. We've 3 years of parachute payments. He was (is?) deemed necessary for promotion. It's all good We paid £4m for him and he was never about resale value. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One For The Road Posted January 23, 2017 Author Share Posted January 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, bobzy said: Mmmmm, personally think it's both. After all, you can't think/know that a new signing will be "shit". For example, Hourihane might not work out for us but we're going to chuck 30k/wk at him to test him out. Hourihane does look the business though tbf. And in his case we are competing with other clubs for his signature AND he is only costing us a million quid in transfer fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One For The Road Posted January 23, 2017 Author Share Posted January 23, 2017 1 minute ago, BOF said: He's on a 3 year contract. We've 3 years of parachute payments. He was (is?) deemed necessary for promotion. It's all good We paid £4m for him and he was never about resale value. I understand that. But 55k? Really? I think that's just ludicrous for where we are now and for a player who isn't even that good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted January 23, 2017 Moderator Share Posted January 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, One For The Road said: I understand that. But 55k? Really? I think that's just ludicrous for where we are now and for a player who isn't even that good. Yeah it's top end, but I think that just reflects the various aspects of the transfer. Getting a club captain to drop down a division, even allowing for his reduced game time at Palace (he had played for them 4 days before the move). International captain. Yes he's in his twilight now but we desperately needed him. And his beard, obviously. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted January 23, 2017 Moderator Share Posted January 23, 2017 36 minutes ago, BOF said: We've 3 years of parachute payments We do, but they reduce a whole chunk each season. from £40m (ish) to £33m (ish) to £14m (ish) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, blandy said: We do, but they reduce a whole chunk each season. from £40m (ish) to £33m (ish) to £14m (ish) If we dont go up next season we are in big troble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, KHV said: If we dont go up next season we are in big troble and even bigger trouble Edited January 23, 2017 by Grasshopper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, blandy said: We do, but they reduce a whole chunk each season. from £40m (ish) to £33m (ish) to £14m (ish) So next season we will get £33m whilst the 3 newly relegated clubs will get around £55m. The season after that we get £14m, whilst the 3 newly relegated clubs will get £55m and the previous 3 relegated clubs will still get £45m each. Edited January 23, 2017 by ender4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted January 23, 2017 Moderator Share Posted January 23, 2017 7 minutes ago, blandy said: We do, but they reduce a whole chunk each season. from £40m (ish) to £33m (ish) to £14m (ish) Yep I know that, but I do think Jedinak's contract is not an issue. I was just giving a reason as to why it is manageable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BOF Posted January 23, 2017 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted January 23, 2017 1 minute ago, ender4 said: So next season we will get £33m whilst the 3 newly relegated clubs will get around £55m. The season after that we get £14m whilst the 3 newly relegated clubs will get £55m and the previous 3 relegated clubs will still get £45m each. We don't get anything in the 3rd season. The parachute payments stop when you get promoted 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Jedinak is not worth 55k a week..paying that to a 32 year old on a 3 year deal is complete madness. Do they never learn??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa Stu Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 1 hour ago, bobzy said: I'd be willing to bet that our current wage bill isn't that much smaller this season (although from memory, players had relegation wage clauses in their contracts?). Jedinak and Chester especially won't be on small wages. When you think of the players that have left, Nzogbia, gana, Guzan, cissokho, Bennett, Clark, traore, gestede plus some outgoing loans, I think it will have dropped quite a bit. I'm sure I read last year that every player, except traore, had a relegation wage drop clause. With the loan players that are returning in the summer if they are not in the plans then they can be sold to generate transfer funds. I'm sure a few clubs in France would like to buy veretout and I think if Gil isn't in our plans it shouldn't be too hard to sell him. I think our main issue is players like gabby, Richards, Westwood that I would assume are on fairly high wages but we will struggle to offload them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Yeah but what if tomorrow Dr Tony announces a £50m sponsorship deal from China? Are we free to spend more money and essentially become the Manchester City of the championship? That's the main question here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 The answer to the thread title is probably 'yes'. We have been a basket case for years, and remain so now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Think it came from such articles as: BARCA AND MADRID HAVE TOP WAGE BILLS Barca and Madrid's low comparative spending can perhaps be explained by their massive wage bills. Luis Enrique's team were the biggest payers in the game with an astonishing €340m splashed out on player salaries over the 2015 financial year, an increase of 37 per cent. Madrid paid out €289m, with Chelsea (€284m), City (€276m) and United (€266m) not far behind. PSG (€255m), Arsenal (€250m), Bayern Munich (€236m) and Liverpool (€216m) make up the nine teams to be paying out more than €200m on wages. Of those, Chelsea's bill took up the highest proportion of their total revenue, consuming 69 per cent. Premier League strugglers Swansea City and relegated Aston Villa (19th and 20th, both €110m) were surprise inclusions in the top 20. ah Haaaa! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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