osmark86 Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 18 hours ago, TrentVilla said: Just like Hogan and Lansbury, a player that was playing really well when he arrived yet so far has failed to find anything close to the same level of form or performance. I don't personally think that is a coincidence. yeah there is definitely a reason in there. however, let's not forget that all those players had been playing for their respective clubs for a good couple of years before being thrown together at Villa having only played half a season together. if we're still seeing the same ol' same ol' after say 10 games into this season then I'll be throwing all my two eyes at the management. until then I remain cautiously optimistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted August 2, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted August 2, 2017 20 hours ago, TrentVilla said: Just like Hogan and Lansbury, a player that was playing really well when he arrived yet so far has failed to find anything close to the same level of form or performance. I don't personally think that is a coincidence. I don't disagree with this. There is something there. But I do think it's possible to succeed here aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan_007 Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 23 hours ago, Killeen30 said: No it's not. Ok thanks. Don't you dare tell me he's natural position will you. Tell me in a yr or something. Really leave me hanging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 I'm going to be pretty angry if Hourihane gets phased out with Onomah now in the squad. Hourihane was the league leader in assists and had a decent amount of goals before he signed for us. If Hourihane gets limited minutes due to a loanee that we will not be able to keep, it will really show that Bruce has no clue what he is doing with signings. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa Stu Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 4 hours ago, Czechlad said: I'm going to be pretty angry if Hourihane gets phased out with Onomah now in the squad. Hourihane was the league leader in assists and had a decent amount of goals before he signed for us. If Hourihane gets limited minutes due to a loanee that we will not be able to keep, it will really show that Bruce has no clue what he is doing with signings. I think us getting players like Onomah, whelen and Elmo will bring out a better side to Hourihane and Lansbury. There are now quite a number of players on the same wave length so hopefully we see that translated into good performances and results. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 4 hours ago, Czechlad said: I'm going to be pretty angry if Hourihane gets phased out with Onomah now in the squad. Hourihane was the league leader in assists and had a decent amount of goals before he signed for us. If Hourihane gets limited minutes due to a loanee that we will not be able to keep, it will really show that Bruce has no clue what he is doing with signings. players have to step up to the plate and do the business......and that includes John Terry. what they have done at previous clubs has only got them here......what they do for us, keeps them in or out of the team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 I want to see him do well here much like anyone else that puts on our shirt. I think that we're getting some healthy competition into the squad. I doubt we'll see little of him this season though because he has the ability and I believe it'll translate to a lot of game time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 I want to see him do well here much like anyone else that puts on our shirt. I think that we're getting some healthy competition into the squad. I doubt we'll see little of him this season though because he has the ability and I believe it'll translate to a lot of game time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyp Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 34 minutes ago, TRO said: players have to step up to the plate and do the business......and that includes John Terry. what they have done at previous clubs has only got them here......what they do for us, keeps them in or out of the team. Spot on. Too much "look what Bruce did at Hull, look what hourihane did at barnsley ". OK, they gonna live off that. Need to step up and do it here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, Czechlad said: I'm going to be pretty angry if Hourihane gets phased out with Onomah now in the squad. Hourihane was the league leader in assists and had a decent amount of goals before he signed for us. If Hourihane gets limited minutes due to a loanee that we will not be able to keep, it will really show that Bruce has no clue what he is doing with signings. Hourihane was Bruce's signing, there is a will for him to succeed. I think our midfield will rotate a bit. Lots of games with the cups. Onomaha can play defensively too - alongside Whelan in a central pair behind the attacking 3. Jedinak hasn't got a full season in him, and whelan will need resting. If Hourihane bucks up he is nailed on starter. Edited August 4, 2017 by thunderball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted August 5, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted August 5, 2017 16 hours ago, Czechlad said: I'm going to be pretty angry if Hourihane gets phased out with Onomah now in the squad. Hourihane was the league leader in assists and had a decent amount of goals before he signed for us. If Hourihane gets limited minutes due to a loanee that we will not be able to keep, it will really show that Bruce has no clue what he is doing with signings. Hourihane plays well and performs - no issue. Hourihane continues to underperform - good to have other options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 7 hours ago, AVTuco said: Hourihane plays well and performs - no issue. Hourihane continues to underperform - good to have other options. I agree with you there. I just want Hourihane to be given a fair chance. He is really good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 14 minutes ago, Czechlad said: I agree with you there. I just want Hourihane to be given a fair chance. He is really good. I think he will struggle for game time, really hasn't shown a single thing since he has been here. Fell behind Bacuna last season and hasn't looked good pre season either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 27 minutes ago, KHV said: I think he will struggle for game time, really hasn't shown a single thing since he has been here. Fell behind Bacuna last season and hasn't looked good pre season either. He was like Veretout. Came to us with high regards, and it hasn't worked out so far. It could be not gelling with the team, or the tactics not suiting him, but it's pretty silly that Bacuna somehow is preferred. Bacuna was just as bad if not worse than Hourihane for us last season. Bacuna offers very little going forward or defending. He is just a tall body who was able to hit freekicks 3 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted August 5, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted August 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Czechlad said: I agree with you there. I just want Hourihane to be given a fair chance. He is really good. I'm sure he gets his chance. And I really hope he takes it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 We have numerous players who can head a ball, but no one who can deliver a ball. If only we had a set piece taker at the club. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 So I imagine he'll be off in the near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killeen30 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 (edited) Should have started today instead of Bacuna. I won't even get started on Bacuna We'd be a lot more dangerous from set pieces if he did. I expect him to be given a start against Colchester on Wednesday night. I hope he takes it! Good player for me. Edited August 5, 2017 by Killeen30 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 This is a strange one but it's still only the first game of the season. I'd be disappointed if we sold him off. It's a new season he deserves another chance atleast. Some of the players in the squad are on their 2000th chance so it would be extremely harsh if we let him go on the basis he hasn't show anything last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 3 hours ago, Czechlad said: I agree with you there. I just want Hourihane to be given a fair chance. He is really good. The fact bacuna started ahead of him is truly shocking 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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