VillanousOne Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 i like Connor but even his set pieces today were shite, he started ok but then all but completely disappeared in the second half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Had one of the most comical headers I've ever seen in the first half when he thought he was gonna get clattered 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Absolutely crap today, that foul in the first half summed him up to a tee he just isn’t athletic enough for this level 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 I think he knows he isn’t good enough at this level and to be fair so do the club hence they got Barkley in. Shame he got injured but just highlights the lack of depth in the squad. We have outgrown him as a club that is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 December 30th, mark my words, this thread is going to be getting bumped again with people calling for him to start a game again. Something about goals and assists, maybe even something about win record in there. The cycle repeats. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Most disappointing thing was he didn't look like a man who's out of the team getting a big chance, there was no fire in him, didn't clatter anything or anyone, didn't really do much of anything, was a complete damp squib Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 What's the point of a midfielder who can't get on the half turn and look forward to try to make a pass? It's like bouncing the ball off a wall when you play it into him. It's invariably just coming straight back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 I purposely looked out for him today as it’s very easy to forget he’s on the pitch and have no idea what he’s done all game. And my conclusion is I don’t think you’ll find another midfielder who offers himself off the ball as little as this guy. He makes a simple pass and then runs forward and just kind of stands in the mass of West Ham players and that’s it, no real attempt to find space and I’d forget about him again until time has passed and I have the thought “I wonder what Hourihane’s doing” and the cycle repeated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 18 minutes ago, Keyblade said: December 30th, mark my words, this thread is going to be getting bumped again with people calling for him to start a game again. Something about goals and assists, maybe even something about win record in there. The cycle repeats. Only thing I'd say to that is it's not like him starting dragged our level down, if anything we played just as well if not better than at Arsenal but simply couldn't finish at the key moments. At this moment I can live with a squad player coming in and giving mediocre performane in a game where we played well and should've won. Bit different to him starting at Leicester and being terrible with everyone else in 4-0 loss. With the way we're defending set pieces and crosses currently case could be made for Hause starting but then you lose plenty of ability to build from back given how bad he is in possesion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Not good enough. The end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 One of his better games in the last 12 months and he was still shit. Seems to have a turned 39 at the age of 29. Can't move. Absolutely garbage. These are the games where he's getting time on the ball as well. I think I'd still start him v Newcastle, because he's utterly unusable until probably Palace on boxing day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, VillaChris said: Only thing I'd say to that is it's not like him starting dragged our level down, if anything we played just as well if not better than at Arsenal but simply couldn't finish at the key moments. At this moment I can live with a squad player coming in and giving mediocre performane in a game where we played well and should've won. Bit different to him starting at Leicester and being terrible with everyone else in 4-0 loss. With the way we're defending set pieces and crosses currently case could be made for Hause starting but then you lose plenty of ability to build from back given how bad he is in possesion. I'm pretty sure it was against Stoke that I saw Hause passing it to their players from the edge of our box under absolutely no pressure. He isn't a Premier League centre-back, though I will grant that he is a statistical freak at winning headers. Hourihane - decent set pieces, forgettable the rest, but he's not the reason we lost. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Tomaszk said: One of his better games in the last 12 months and he was still shit. I honestly thought he was really good in our first couple of games, and thought it was harsh to drop him. Utterly hopeless tonight though. Definitely an area to strengthen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: One of his better games in the last 12 months and he was still shit. Seems to have a turned 39 at the age of 29. Can't move. Absolutely garbage. These are the games where he's getting time on the ball as well. I think I'd still start him v Newcastle, because he's utterly unusable until probably Palace on boxing day. He was really good in the Newcastle home game last year, aside from his free kick. Probably helps Newcastle are one of the few prem teams for whom pressing in midfield for Bruce is still one of those strange foreign concepts and they don't do it at all so Conor has plenty of time on the ball. Get the feeling though we'll start as we finished tonight. Jack in number 10 position and two wide players either side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LxYoungAVFC Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 A picture that accurately describes his playstyle: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_avfc Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 2 hours ago, rodders0223 said: Would rather play Ramsey and take the hits should we lose. Get rid. Cash in. Be smart for once I completely agree with this but I’m not sure there’s much to cash in. I don’t see who’s going to offer us much at all for Hourihane. I’d sell him but rather than cashing in I’d be calling it take whatever we can get. We’re going to need a central midfielder in January in order to sell him though as our squad is paper thin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Championship level 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 He’s not premier league quality. His set pieces are not good enough consistently to have him in on that ticket either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry'sboots Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 I can't imagine anyone making a case to start CH again after that display. It was like we were playing with 10 men and a pole in the middle of the park. I would start Ramsey as, even if he is not yet ready, he has got to be better than CH! And it also means that SJM doesn't need to push into the "10" role and can sit a bit deeper. I can't understand why DS doesn't see this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 PL is a step too much for conor. You can seem the quality isnt there for this level. He only really has set pieces in his locker. He is slow and if you compare him to barkley its actually embarrassing how much better barkley is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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