Laughable Chimp Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Keyblade said: As shown at Chelsea, he's not what you need in these games. Our midfield was overrun as it was, with Conor in there we would've been slaughtered. I mean, I doubt he would've done much worse than Douglas this game tbh. Aside from 20 minutes at Chelsea, I've yet to see much more convincing evidence that Douglas is that much a better option than Conor for any game. They both are liable to become passengers when the going gets tough. Edited December 8, 2019 by Laughable Chimp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted December 8, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted December 8, 2019 Just now, Keyblade said: As shown at Chelsea, he's not what you need in these games. Our midfield was overrun as it was, with Conor in there we would've been slaughtered. Without him, we lose. But what I'm really saying is, it doesn't have to be black and white, bring him on for second half in certain games. And don't start him just because he scored in the previous one. However, play him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, AVTuco said: Without him, we lose. But what I'm really saying is, it doesn't have to be black and white, bring him on for second half in certain games. And don't start him just because he scored in the previous one. However, play him. How do you figure? He's not Jack Grealish. We're more than capable of winning without him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted December 8, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Keyblade said: How do you figure? He's not Jack Grealish. We're more than capable of winning without him. Just from my head. I may be wrong, but my feeling is he's been playing in most of our "good" matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Hourihane struggles in games where we really have to press and keep up with quick touch midfielders so I really don't see him starting today making a huge difference. He'd have been chasing shadows with the rest. You can however see the logic in him starting v Newcastle when they had a very slow central two and we had all the space and time to knock the ball around. He'd certainly start for me v Norwich and Southampton and probably Watford and Sheffield united aswell. One thing I would say is our corner kicks are abysmal without him. We have 3-4 in first 10 minutes today and they either couldn't beat the first man or were massively overhit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Chelsea was the wrong game for him. Leicester was the wrong game for him. Sheff Utd I think is the wrong game for him. Watford and Southampton... I want him on the pitch. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 5 hours ago, Tomaszk said: Sheff Utd I think is the wrong game for him. Why? Sheff Utd aren't exactly known as a possession based team. Norwich almost had 60 % of the ball against them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 Seemed odd to not even have him on the bench today? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 3 hours ago, Davkaus said: Seemed odd to not even have him on the bench today? Think Smith has said he had a knock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 Of our seven wins this season he's started six, scored five and got two assists. Should be in the starting eleven every week, no matter the opposition, people talk about him not doing much besides his goals and assists, but it's not as if our other midfielders have brilliant all round games either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 I'd like to see the good old Conor, Jack and McGinn midfield back starting together. I think they work well together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vreitti Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 47 minutes ago, villalad21 said: I'd like to see the good old Conor, Jack and McGinn midfield back starting together. I think they work well together. Conor lacks fight. He's useless when we're on the ropes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 1 minute ago, vreitti said: Conor lacks fight. He's useless when we're on the ropes. So is Douglas, and judging by today's performance, most likely Lansbury as well. Its not like we have a lot of options there, especially if you're gonna drop Mcginn like some posters have been suggesting Smith do. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMcKenna Posted December 15, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted December 15, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, villalad21 said: I'd like to see the good old Conor, Jack and McGinn midfield back starting together. I think they work well together. I rarely agree with you and have been a big critic of CH, but today he could have made a difference, given that our passing was *****. DS needs to change something in the middle but his options are limited. Edited December 15, 2019 by MikeMcKenna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 I'm glad he missed today because if he'd have started he'd have been blown away and his chance of starting the next game would have been reduced. Hourihane to score and villa win is bet of the match next up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvillafan Posted December 15, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted December 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Tomaszk said: I'm glad he missed today because if he'd have started he'd have been blown away and his chance of starting the next game would have been reduced. Hourihane to score and villa win is bet of the match next up. Alternatively, he may have delivered on one of the many dead ball opportunities that Grealish wins and we'd have been in a better position - maybe even gaining a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryvilla Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 If he was on that pitch yesterday he would of smashed that peno that might of gave us some hope of a draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 He is probably our biggest goal threat. As much as a criticized him after the Chelsea game he needs to start in every game. He is a part of the core from last season and in hindsight i think it's been a mistake not having him as a starter. If we were to get relegated it's a lesson to learn next time we get promoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted December 16, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted December 16, 2019 We need him. We're so poor currently our best hope for a goal is a free kick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 (edited) On 09/12/2019 at 02:29, Tomaszk said: Chelsea was the wrong game for him. Leicester was the wrong game for him. Sheff Utd I think is the wrong game for him. Watford and Southampton... I want him on the pitch. Obviously I meant Southampton and Norwich. Will anyone else be stunned if he doesn't start? And I say that as someone not really a big fan. Edited December 19, 2019 by Tomaszk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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