Richard Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 What are your thoughts on his appointment as England manager? For me it is totally underwhelming . It is a political appointment. The FA have invested loads in St George's park and one of their motivators for that is to find and develop the next generation of coaches for football. Appointing Southgate gives credence to that objective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Hopefully he is cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted December 1, 2016 Moderator Share Posted December 1, 2016 Relief it's not Bruce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Platt Posted December 1, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted December 1, 2016 I think it's the right decision. He has worked and had success with the next generation of players. He played not so long ago so can relate to them too. International football is totally different to club football it's about cultivating a belief amongst the players and having them all buying into the plan. Tactically I am not sure but then he can do no worse than the last few managers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG_Villa_Fan Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Even RDM could get out of this group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 International management can be completely random. It's not an 'exciting' appointment, but we'll just have to wait and see what he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Just now, BG_Villa_Fan said: Even RDM could get out of this group. We'd have dropped about 8 points under him so far! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Proof that arse licking pays dividends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The_Rev Posted December 1, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted December 1, 2016 I'm still not sure what any England manager could do with the current crop of players. We are still 5-10 years away from finding out whether the promises made after the 2010 world cup have been kept and if the resulting St George's Park project has produced coaches and players of the calibre we need to be where we want to be. Until then it really doesn't matter. We've got good enough players to qualify for tournaments but we haven't got the individual talent or the strength in depth to win anything. I think we've got the occasional inspired performance in us (such as Wales had vs Belgium at the Euros) but the consistency won't be there until there is competition for places in every position. There are some promising lads coming through such as Dele Alli, Eric Dier, Harry Kane, Marcus Rashford, Raheem Sterling (etc) but there's still plenty of mediocrity and has beens in the squad and it's limiting us when we want to compare ourselves to the likes of Spain, Germany & France. The coach doesn't get a lot of time with the first team, the be super organised and hope a star player pulls something out of the bag fails more than it works so we might as well have someone like Southgate who knows what the FA are trying to do (or at least say they are trying to do) and give England an identity from schoolboy to tournament level. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Means that I care just as little about the England National Team as I did before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Don't care, but I did find this line funny: 'Divorced, beheaded and died; sacked, disgraced, resigned. Not forgetting, of course, seduced by sheikhs, humiliated by an emerging volcano‑nation and bought and sold for a pint of wine and a keynote-speaker gig. Like doomed Tudor wives, this seems to be the lot of England football managers now, remembered more for the frenzied drama of their departures than any tangible success on the pitch.' https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/nov/30/gareth-southgate-england-manager-man-for-the-times 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 5 hours ago, BG_Villa_Fan said: Even RDM could get out of this group. England 1- 1 Malta. Malta have scored an 88th minute equaliser and now after 7 games in the group England have drawn 6 and lost 1 and conceded all goals between 85-90 minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 It's great news...that means brucie is staying here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 no problems with it really, I think our players are crap, and so far having lot's of managerial experience has achieved bugger all, and although expectations will always be too high, why not go with someone with the most recent playing experience of the highest level of recent candidates and who is well used to the flow of occasional games from the U21 period. He's got as good a chance as any. We'll qualify as we always do - he's more competent than McLaren imo, and he's got a good temperament for the job. I don't really care that much though as international football is quite shit but still I hope he does well. Exorcising the ghosts of Germany in his first friendly will be interesting! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Underwhelming but not a bad move. What I do think is bonkers though is the 4 year contract. Should have been up until the next World Cup, so if (when) we do shite and have to sack him there will be no compensation. You would have thought the FA would have learnt by now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 I've always wondered how good Gareth Barry would be if he hadn't had Southgate to learn from very early on. What a centre half. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted December 2, 2016 Moderator Share Posted December 2, 2016 14 hours ago, Tomaszk said: I've always wondered how good Gareth Barry would be if he hadn't had Southgate to learn from very early on. What a centre half. He was brilliant on his debut. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted December 2, 2016 Moderator Share Posted December 2, 2016 As underwhelming as that time Germany appointed serial underachiever Jogi Löw... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted December 2, 2016 Moderator Share Posted December 2, 2016 6 hours ago, NurembergVillan said: As underwhelming as that time Germany appointed serial underachiever Jogi Löw... And he's not to be sniffed at... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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