Keyblade Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 7 hours ago, StefanAVFC said: **** hell I wasn't trying to point score. By saying that the left has done good work with certain things, I wasn't saying the right hasn't. You chose to wade in and make it all about left/right. I didn't even mention the right or the Tories, because if anything, I was having a go at the left. That certain people (often on the left) dilute important social justice issues by focusing on nonsense (such as the Lena Dunham shite above) This is most definitely true. But I feel like their presence and influence is hugely overstated, probably thanks to illusory nature of social media. Apart from some weird stuff going on in a few college campuses, they have pretty much zero influence outside of Twitter and Tumblr. Meanwhile, their counterparts the alt-right are holding meetings on how they can influence policy with some of their big shots being given big positions in Trump's team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponky Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 "you can't say anything anymore without someone getting offended" Wrong. People have always been offended by insensitive, offensive jerks. It's just that the people who have been the butt of such comments have had a gut full, made a bit of a noise, and agitated for change. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 50 minutes ago, Ponky said: "you can't say anything anymore without someone getting offended" Wrong. People have always been offended by insensitive, offensive jerks. It's just that the people who have been the butt of such comments have had a gut full, made a bit of a noise, and agitated for change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Emily Maitlis on Newsnight tonight is wearing a sort of long sweatshirt and a pair of long suede boots. As a feminist, I support her right to wear whatever she likes. Anyone looking at this in a sexual way, well, they need to get with the programme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 My politics are generally left wing, but people like these "protesters" do the left a massive disservice: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Xela Posted December 9, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2016 On 12/8/2016 at 08:04, Keyblade said: This is most definitely true. But I feel like their presence and influence is hugely overstated, probably thanks to illusory nature of social media. Apart from some weird stuff going on in a few college campuses, they have pretty much zero influence outside of Twitter and Tumblr. Meanwhile, their counterparts the alt-right are holding meetings on how they can influence policy with some of their big shots being given big positions in Trump's team. Agreed. The people involved on the extreme left will never amount to anything other than a bit of social media bluster. They'll finish their gender studies course and end up selling spiritual jewellery at a market in Portland, while writing a bitter blog about white privilege or how the 'patriarchy' is sexist against gender fluid or non binary people. They're basically unemployable in the mainstream sensible world. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted December 13, 2016 Author Share Posted December 13, 2016 (edited) ffs I meant really, what the hell is wrong with it being 'person of the year' rather than 'man of the year'!? Edited December 13, 2016 by StefanAVFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morley_crosses_to_Withe Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Undefined gender person of the year would've been better. Btw - he doesn't actually do much complaining in that video. He just asks what label people would prefer and then at the end says "anyway...who cares". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 How dare they assume he identifies as a person. He may identify himself as a pot plant or a god amongst mortals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 I mean, man of the year surely suggests that there's a seperate woman of the year, rather than it being the same thing that can be won by either a man or a woman. Person of the year seems to just make more sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 (edited) On 12/9/2016 at 14:25, Xela said: They're basically unemployable in the mainstream sensible world. Not if they have a master's degree which translates well to the job market. And people think corporate culture is stifling now... Edited December 14, 2016 by maqroll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Ben Shapiro gets it right here, when he says tell the truth but don't be a jerk about it: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted December 16, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted December 16, 2016 Nobody cares about Milo if he wasn't a prick so I suspect he'll be ignoring Shapiro's advice. Probably not a bad rule of thumb generally. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted December 16, 2016 Moderator Share Posted December 16, 2016 On 13/12/2016 at 18:40, Xela said: How dare they assume he identifies as a person. He may identify himself as a pot plant .... What, Like George Bush? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 (edited) On 12/8/2016 at 09:00, Ponky said: "you can't say anything anymore without someone getting offended" Wrong. People have always been offended by insensitive, offensive jerks. It's just that the people who have been the butt of such comments have had a gut full, made a bit of a noise, and agitated for change. Not necessarily true. During a game of poker, a friend of a friend got annoyed by me referring to someone as an "actress". Apparently it's sexist and that "female actor" is the correct term. Edited December 16, 2016 by kurtsimonw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 I think the very existence of what the PC brigade call 'micro-aggressions' establishes that there is no utterance too trivial, intentional or not, which cannot be condemned as an insensitive attack where one party is a perpetrator and the other a victim. This creates a continuum of permanent offence which tends towards conflating the trivial with the blatant. This is what pisses people off. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 (edited) I was having a conversation with a 20-something girl outside a bar a few months ago. I was conveying a hypothetical situation where the imagined person used the word "bitch"...she quickly took offense and told me I was wrong to use that word...even though the CONTEXT implied that the word would not necessarily have been of my own choosing if I was representing myself... Edited December 17, 2016 by maqroll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il_serpente Posted December 17, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted December 17, 2016 You referred to her as a girl, you sexist pig. I bet your hypothetical situation was just an excuse to use the word "bitch" and not have to take responsibility for it... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 10 minutes ago, il_serpente said: You referred to her as a girl, you sexist pig. I bet your hypothetical situation was just an excuse to use the word "bitch" and not have to take responsibility for it... haha, there is no escape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingram85 Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 (edited) The **** is Shapiro and who the **** is Milo? I care more about my skid marks I left in the toilet then these word removed's. Seriously, maybe modern society does need wiping out with its 'triggers', new fangled 'im a under represented' weird mixed part fish/wardrobe/aubergine/human hybrid gender labels and the faux outrage that everyone blogs and tweets about. **** it all up its bleached gender fluid safe space bum hole. Edited December 17, 2016 by Ingram85 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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