TrentVilla Posted November 21, 2016 Moderator Share Posted November 21, 2016 I was watching the Villa match in a pub on Friday when some drunken guy thought he would impress me with him Villa knowledge.m which was the usual superficial stuff. He then followed it up with telling me that O'Neill was his uncle and asking me what I thought of him, so I told him. I'm nit sure wait was what he expected to hear, we didn't chat much after that. Which was nice. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 I blame whoever appointed every manager since MON - (with the exception of Lambert and Bruce). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PussEKatt Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 So what has happened with FFP ? Tony Xia said that having new owners would not effect it because it has nothing to do with how much $$$ the owners have, its to do with how much AVFC have.So what has happened now, we get new owners that are worth a few billion each and all of a sudden FFP seems to have gone away.Are we now in the same catagoey as Man $ity,ManUre and Liverpool as far as $$$ is concerned ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 One thing we probably haven’t thought of is can we actually afford to get rid of Bruce.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sidcow Posted September 2, 2018 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted September 2, 2018 6 minutes ago, dudevillaisnice said: One thing we probably haven’t thought of is can we actually afford to get rid of Bruce.. We definitely can't afford to keep him. 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 1 hour ago, PussEKatt said: So what has happened with FFP ? Tony Xia said that having new owners would not effect it because it has nothing to do with how much $$$ the owners have, its to do with how much AVFC have.So what has happened now, we get new owners that are worth a few billion each and all of a sudden FFP seems to have gone away.Are we now in the same catagoey as Man $ity,ManUre and Liverpool as far as $$$ is concerned ? Theres 2 scenarios in my opinion: 1) Xia exaggerated the FFP problems to cover his own back, plus new owners have been given a bit of leniency to get finances in order. 2) They have seen other fines handed out and decided to chance it and have another go, and take the consequences if and when. In reality its probably a little bit of all of those things. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godders Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 19 hours ago, Tony said: Theres 2 scenarios in my opinion: 1) Xia exaggerated the FFP problems to cover his own back, plus new owners have been given a bit of leniency to get finances in order. 2) They have seen other fines handed out and decided to chance it and have another go, and take the consequences if and when. In reality its probably a little bit of all of those things. A third option: their lawyers/accountants believe there is a loophole(s) they can exploit to get money into the club without falling foul of FFP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted September 3, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted September 3, 2018 If we opt to 'take the hit', the problem won't be money (we have plenty of that). It will be POINTS DEDUCTION. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoof hearted Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 16 minutes ago, mjmooney said: If we opt to 'take the hit', the problem won't be money (we have plenty of that). It will be POINTS DEDUCTION. At this rate we'll have no points to get deducted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted September 3, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted September 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, Hoof hearted said: At this rate we'll have no points to get deducted. You can have minus points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejoker Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 21 hours ago, dudevillaisnice said: One thing we probably haven’t thought of is can we actually afford to get rid of Bruce.. We we’re going to spend £6m on Bryan and £9m in January on the French defender. We can afford to sack him if the owners want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoof hearted Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 7 minutes ago, mjmooney said: You can have minus points. Can't beat a bit of pedantry. I do know that, but if it got that far it really wouldn't matter would it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilko154 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 I'm sure I heard Bruce's contract expired at the end of last season and he is now on a monthly rolling contract... Even if that is wrong and he has signed a new deal I imagine he would only have been offered 1 year, so not a massive hit to take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 27 minutes ago, wilko154 said: I'm sure I heard Bruce's contract expired at the end of last season and he is now on a monthly rolling contract... Even if that is wrong and he has signed a new deal I imagine he would only have been offered 1 year, so not a massive hit to take. From what I have seen he's been on a one year rolling deal since he took over. So there's always 12 months of a pay off whenever he gets sacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStagMan Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 1 hour ago, villa89 said: From what I have seen he's been on a one year rolling deal since he took over. So there's always 12 months of a pay off whenever he gets sacked. One would hope that when the new owners came in that they gave him his one year notice and then said to him, get us promoted and we will look to give you a new contract. That way if we did get rid during the year, the pay off would be less as it would only be the remaining term to pay. It's what I would have done, I hope they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 2 hours ago, wilko154 said: I'm sure I heard Bruce's contract expired at the end of last season and he is now on a monthly rolling contract... Even if that is wrong and he has signed a new deal I imagine he would only have been offered 1 year, so not a massive hit to take. Be interesting to know where you heard that and what backs it up. #campaignforflushingoutunsupportedspeculationonline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 8 minutes ago, briny_ear said: Be interesting to know where you heard that and what backs it up. #campaignforflushingoutunsupportedspeculationonline Agreed. I'm sure it's been reported that Bruce is on a 1yr rolling contract so it never expires as such, as it always had 1yr remaining? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted September 3, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted September 3, 2018 31 minutes ago, TheStagMan said: One would hope that when the new owners came in that they gave him his one year notice and then said to him, get us promoted and we will look to give you a new contract. That way if we did get rid during the year, the pay off would be less as it would only be the remaining term to pay. It's what I would have done, I hope they did. Not sure that's legally possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted September 3, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted September 3, 2018 2 hours ago, wilko154 said: I'm sure I heard Bruce's contract expired at the end of last season and he is now on a monthly rolling contract... If it's a 12 month rolling contract, then it can never expire. Unless he signed a new one with different clauses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStagMan Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Not sure that's legally possible. Why not? If it is a 12 month rolling contract, notice can be served at any point and he can be expected to work out his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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