andykeenan Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Being kept in after the game Quote West Midlands Police have revealed that Aston Villa fans will be held in the ground after the second city derby with Birmingham City at the weekend. The police have revealed the measures they will take in a bid to ensure the safety of all fans at the game on Sunday. There will be a high police presence in place in and around the ground for the first league fixture between the two teams in over five years. Match commander Chief Inspector Nick Rowe said: “It will be great to see two sets of passionate fans come along and enjoy the spectacle - and atmosphere - of a local derby. “This is a great occasion and our role is to ensure a safe event for everyone who attends the game." http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-kept-ground-after-12078854 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dAVe80 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 This is a ridiculous idea in my opinion. I'd like to know which fan groups they've spoken to? Have they ever been to that shit hole before? When they've done this in the past, all it's done is give time for them to hang about up the road, and pick off ones and twos, once the police escort has gone. If the idea is to stop trouble, then the best thing they could do is let everyone out at the same time. The majority of normal fans will just mingle into the crowd, and make their own way home as usual. It's not hard to do. Just make sure you're not in colours, and you'll be fine. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve1986 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 I remember this happening on my one and only trip to the sty (we won of course). They kept us in afterwards, and then by the time we were allowed to be taken back to town the home fans were waiting on the opposite side of the road with bricks and stones to throw at us, was a wonderful walk home. Good luck to those going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted October 26, 2016 Moderator Share Posted October 26, 2016 Love that they think this is a new idea! They used to do this to us at Highfield Road in the 80's, made us targets then and will do again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted October 26, 2016 Moderator Share Posted October 26, 2016 1 minute ago, TrentVilla said: They used to do this to us at Highfield Road in the 80's, made us targets then and will do again. They used to do it almost everywhere in the late 70s and early 80s. I don't think it really changed much until about the time all seater grounds came in and Sky invented football. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted October 26, 2016 Moderator Share Posted October 26, 2016 I trust that people are already on twitter telling plod just how genius this idea is, and how dodgerock was their favourite sport in school? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc456 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 I was there when we were kept in for an hour after, walking back to the car at millennium point and having to walk under that bridge past the pub on the island is one I won't forget As long as it doesn't kick off round the ground police don't give a monkeys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Just don't go in colours then you be fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted October 26, 2016 Moderator Share Posted October 26, 2016 17 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Just don't go in colours then you be fine The problem is, you're now identifiable even without colours - you're people coming out of the ground an hour after everyone else. I'm not sure it's the right decision. Horrible ground, horrible people, horrible place to have to go, good luck to those of you that will be there. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiddybloke Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Was locked in a while back and it was an absolutely horrendous idea. Bricks, bottles and glasses raining in while we were penned in. We were then marched back to the centre when we were just a massive walking target, bricks and bottles hitting people left right and centre. With the police taking no action. let people filter out and you avoid the massive "villa fans are all here guys" target. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 20 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: The problem is, you're now identifiable even without colours - you're people coming out of the ground an hour after everyone else. I'm not sure it's the right decision. Horrible ground, horrible people, horrible place to have to go, good luck to those of you that will be there. Yeah I see your point absolutely stupid idea. Imagine if villa go on to win they will be after blood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ikantcpell Posted October 26, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 26, 2016 1 hour ago, Demitri_C said: Just don't go in colours then you be fine Iam gonna go wrapped in a huge villa flag with "F**k off small heat" written all over it. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted October 26, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted October 26, 2016 (edited) I went there in about 84/85 when I was young age 14/15 and very innocent about what it was like. I got separated from my mates, the highly aggressive police kept us in for a while then let us out. I remember being a young kid on my own walking down past The Watering Hole when some monster bloke with a neck like a bull covered in tattoo's (in the days before anyone except nutters had them) suddenly bellowed in a voice which reverberated round the vicinity "where are you Villa?" All I thought was if you find them mate I'm right with you! Horrible horrible scary walk back to town. Rather like my trip to The Pyramids in the same convoy of coaches the day before the Germans were all killed in a petrol bombing attack , I am glad I went when I did but I will never go there again. Anyone remember when we played Millwall? I guess it was the day of the McInally goal when they kept the HOME fans in and even blockaded Witton Lane so it was impossible to walk from The Holte to the away end entrance ? Edited October 26, 2016 by sidcow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 5 hours ago, BOF said: I trust that people are already on twitter telling plod just how genius this idea is, and how dodgerock was their favourite sport in school? Talk about lining up your ducks! WTF are plod thinking? Well I guess they are Not, obviously! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStagMan Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 This will not end well. Good luck to those going. You would not catch me anywhere near that place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Thomas Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 (edited) Probably not the best option to hold fans in the ground, but come on. I would love to be there. Be a terrific atmosphere, especially if we win which I think we will. Always a bit hairy after a derby but everyone going knows that. Part and parcel. The City is ours!! Edited October 26, 2016 by Gary Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 (edited) The Scum make West Ham Millwall & Glasgow look like apprentices. Someone should just nuke The SHA, be good for greenhouse gasses and global warming Edited October 27, 2016 by Grasshopper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn1982 Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Wear what you like Do what you like. It's only Blues don't get carried away. I think we got kept in in the Cup game and that made things worse. Every time we've been let out together there's not been that much trouble as we tend to blend in after a few hundred yards. I reckon letting them time to get together and us coming out in a hoard isn't the best idea! I'm surprised they've not closed off the road like they did witton Lane last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hev Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Not going to this one. Last one I went to was I think a cup game - Blooz fans were tearing up their own seats and throwing them down on us as we walked out - horrible - another time, we were penned in the area outside the away entrance whilst bottles and coins were hurled in over the fence! I just hope that when they come to our place, we do the same to them and keep them in for 30 mins - because on previous occasions, it is WE VILLA FANS that leave via Witton Lane who have been inconvenienced by being sent on an alternative route so we don't have to walk past the away exit enabling THEM to get out nice and conveniently whilst the home support are greatly inconvenienced !! It was the same with Albion recently as well - us home fans inconvenienced and at Hawthorns, we also had to go on a long alternate walk - so that when we go elsewhere, it is us, as away fans inconvenienced all the time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dAVe80 Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 44 minutes ago, Hev said: Not going to this one. Last one I went to was I think a cup game - Blooz fans were tearing up their own seats and throwing them down on us as we walked out - horrible - another time, we were penned in the area outside the away entrance whilst bottles and coins were hurled in over the fence! I just hope that when they come to our place, we do the same to them and keep them in for 30 mins - because on previous occasions, it is WE VILLA FANS that leave via Witton Lane who have been inconvenienced by being sent on an alternative route so we don't have to walk past the away exit enabling THEM to get out nice and conveniently whilst the home support are greatly inconvenienced !! It was the same with Albion recently as well - us home fans inconvenienced and at Hawthorns, we also had to go on a long alternate walk - so that when we go elsewhere, it is us, as away fans inconvenienced all the time. It doesn't happen at Villa, as Villa Park is much easier to police. Old Bill only have to give short escorts to the coach park, or Witton Station. In extreme circumstances, they can block off Witton Lane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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