BigAl Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 This promotion/playoff hope is becoming just a pipe dream with every passing week really need to start getting a few wins on the board looks more like a battle to stay out of League 1 rather than a challenge for the Premier League, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 It was a pipe dream before the season started. I said so then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted October 15, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted October 15, 2016 Time to realise that the problem isn't the manager or the system or the tactics or the formation or misfortune or Westwood. We are just shit. The squad is shit, the mentality is shit. Good luck Steve, you're going to need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 This thread..... (as in that it was even started) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 10 hours ago, Woodytom said: This thread..... (as in that it was even started) There's a promotion thread knocking around somewhere too. We'll be miles behind by the time janaury comes along and we'll need to buy 5 or 6 new players then to have any chance of the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 we are 3 points behind Burton Albion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 (edited) I think we can forget promotion this season We look heavily gimped in the fitness department and were going to be playing catchup all season Quite rediculous really considering last season we had the same issue and one of the reasons we went down because we had players blowing out their arses after 60 minutes. The spineless midfield doesn't help either Edited October 16, 2016 by AshVilla 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Are we the biggest joke in British football right now? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 we have been a joke for quite a long time, since the 8-0 Chelsea game we have been a laughing stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn1982 Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 We are one point closer to 6th than we were yesterday morning and after our worst performance of the season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 (edited) I guess it depends whether you are a pessimist or an optimist. A pessimist would say "my god everything is terrible things couldn't be worse" whereas an optimist would say "oh yes they could". Edited October 16, 2016 by terrytini Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 5 hours ago, terrytini said: I guess it depends whether you are a pessimist or an optimist. A pessimist would say "my god everything is terrible things couldn't be worse" whereas an optimist would say "oh yes they could". but it has to be based on something Terry otherwise its just "pie in the sky" I think it all depends on when the woeful football stops and we improve in our match day performance. Its not necessarily being an optimist or a pessimist as a general persona .....its more about having something tangible on match day to be optimistic about. Blind faith and divine intervention.....ain't going to help us I'm afraid. right now, we are just trying to win a game....thats our immediate target, thats what it has come down to. In our current state to be looking at play off places is just teasing ourselves.... we need to be avoiding the drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 For me, The manager has to have things turned around by the end of November, with the major problems addressed - whether that be fitness, psychological, whatever! along with some points on the board and at least a few more places up the table (along with other fixtures being kind to us like they have been this weekend). These are the minimum issues I feel and if not sorted I agree by then we will know for sure whether we give up the ghost this season and just solely focus on gaining finishing in a reputable position and build for next season. Obviously I would like us to be able to get a few points on the board.. clamber through till January and will give us time to get a few names in and out and strengthen. It's not easy, yet still not impossible either. If we can turn the results around where we have thrown away so far this season mainly as draws, but win our next encounter against these teams then it should balance itself out in the notion philosophy of: Win as many of your home games as possible and at least draw as many away games as possible usually makes a good tonic for teams seeking the upper reaches of the league. I think we can afford to still piss up a couple more results throughout the remainder of the season - but not many to still be in with a playoff shout at the very least! Remember one thing. Football is a very funny old game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 we wont be going up this year but i think we will be up there next season. can see the likes of ayew and amavi leaving so we may have afew problems again next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 4 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: we wont be going up this year but i think we will be up there next season. can see the likes of ayew and amavi leaving so we may have afew problems again next year I remember a lot of people pre-season saying we'd piss the league, at least we'll win games in the Championship etc... then we were crap. Then after the transfer window "we're going to walk it now" etc etc. There is nothing to suggest anything will change next year just because its a new season. On current form we'll potentially be relegated again. There's some kind of cancer at the club, I can't put my finger on what it is as almost everything has been replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 I don't think we have a hope in hell. I don't think it's realistic for us to win anywhere near enough games due to the shocking mentality that stains the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 It is probably a combination of a lot of things, but the big reason we are struggling again this season despite spending a fortune on players is simply because we failed to grasp just how important the midfield is. Fitness, tactics, formations, confidence, individual errors, injuries, "bad luck" and so on all play a part. But without a midfield you can't build a stable functioning team able to adjusting to the particular challenge at hand. Westwood is doing as expected, Gardner a bit worse than we hoped. But neither can have been expected to be leading players this season by anyone who has seen them play before. Tish is a young prospect, who can't have been expected to carry the team, and as for Jedi he was either not scouted enough or went on a summer long bender because he looks bang out of shape both physically and mentally. Might even still be drunk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 35 minutes ago, sne said: and as for Jedi he was either not scouted enough or went on a summer long bender because he looks bang out of shape both physically and mentally. Might even still be drunk? Probably why he hasnt had a shave and looks a complete mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted October 17, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted October 17, 2016 Nah, I think Bruce can do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 5 minutes ago, Jareth said: Nah, I think Bruce can do it. No chance we need 10-15 wins and we cant even win one. not going to happen I am afraid. personally if these players are not up for the fight and cant handle the pressure then get lost we want winners here not losers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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