Delphinho123 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 (edited) Midfielders. That name again? Midfielders. Just Midfielders. And maybe a Goalkeeper. But mostly just midfielders. Edited October 12, 2016 by Delphinho123 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan4Life Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Cana is on a free at moment What's the bet that Steve Bruce signs him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson1 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 4 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: Midfielders. That name again? Midfielders. Just Midfielders. And maybe a Goalkeeper. But mostly just midfielders. Agree and possibly a decent right back on loan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn1982 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Cloggers is that a defamatory term now? Jedinak was bought solely for this reason. Westwood is slated for not being enough of a clogged!! Midfield is the stand out position we need reinforcing. If we can get Veretout back now I would as he'd play well in a 3. I've no idea who we can get but that's our weakest area. I'd also look to loan in a proper right back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjvilla Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 1 hour ago, Michael118 said: I think I''ll avoid this thread if I can help it. Give us a michael118 wish list of players for January then come back at the end of January and see how we did? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 20 minutes ago, dn1982 said: Cloggers is that a defamatory term now? Jedinak was bought solely for this reason. Westwood is slated for not being enough of a clogged!! Midfield is the stand out position we need reinforcing. If we can get Veretout back now I would as he'd play well in a 3. I've no idea who we can get but that's our weakest area. I'd also look to loan in a proper right back. "Cloggers" if you want them to be a negative in your argument, "enforcers" if you want them to be a positive. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Loftus Cheek still not getting games at Chelsea. Not going to happen but would be perfect for us 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 2 hours ago, StefanAVFC said: Such a lazy stereotype with regards to Bruce. Hang on, someone was quoting what they thought would happen based on what he has done before. When fans are being asked to judge the man on his experience in this league and what he has done before it is only fair that they also apply that to his transfer strategy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 2 hours ago, Delphinho123 said: Midfielders. That name again? Midfielders. Just Midfielders. And maybe a Goalkeeper. But mostly just midfielders. agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 12 minutes ago, Richard said: Hang on, someone was quoting what they thought would happen based on what he has done before. When fans are being asked to judge the man on his experience in this league and what he has done before it is only fair that they also apply that to his transfer strategy. Nice try, but no. When questioned on this lazy stereotype, Zatman provided 1 name, then 4 more. 5 names in a 20 year career doesn't validate a lazy stereotype I'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 2 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: Nice try, but no. When questioned on this lazy stereotype, Zatman provided 1 name, then 4 more. 5 names in a 20 year career doesn't validate a lazy stereotype I'm afraid. Actually you are wrong. Your post that I quoted and questioned came directly after Zatman had said this " It will be a MON like transfer policy, some midfield cloggers in the mould of Savage or Damien Johnson. so I expect a return for Steve Sidwell and Reo-Coker " I've emboldened the bits from Zatman's post which are relevant to the point I was, correctly, making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 (edited) You're making out that these two assumptions are on the same level, whereas one is totally subjective and the other is objective. Bruce has success at achieving promotion in this league, indisputable fact. Bruce signs midfield cloggers. Subjective, stereotype, confirmation bias. Using vague terms like 'in the mould of' and 'i expect' doesn't change that. You're arguing semantics at that point. You're making a argument that simply isn't there. Edited October 12, 2016 by StefanAVFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 2 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: You're making out that these two assumptions are on the same level, whereas one is totally subjective and the other is objective. Bruce has success at achieving promotion in this league, indisputable fact. Bruce signs midfield cloggers. Subjective, stereotype, confirmation bias. Using vague terms like 'in the mould of' and 'i expect' doesn't change that. You're arguing semantics at that point. You're making a argument that simply isn't there. Again you are wrong. Any assumption of what the man will do based on what he has done is subjective, ANY assumption. Bruce may have success at promotion in this league, but does that mean he will have it with us? That is subjective. Bruce has signed this type of player in the past so another poster thinks and therefore thinks he will do so again. Also subjective and also based on know;edge of how that manager has performed in the past. Both are using past experiences to make a subjective comment about possible future scenarios. You cannot deny one but allow the other. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Just now, Richard said: Again you are wrong. Any assumption of what the man will do based on what he has done is subjective, ANY assumption. Bruce may have success at promotion in this league, but does that mean he will have it with us? That is subjective. Bruce has signed this type of player in the past so another poster thinks and therefore thinks he will do so again. Also subjective and also based on know;edge of how that manager has performed in the past. Both are using past experiences to make a subjective comment about possible future scenarios. You cannot deny one but allow the other. False equivalence. Again. I'm bored, and out. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IwishIwasalivein1982 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Wonder if the Hernandez deal would go through if he went to a manager he knows... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 33 minutes ago, IwishIwasalivein1982 said: Wonder if the Hernandez deal would go through if he went to a manager he knows... He's been offered a new deal at Hull, making him the highest paid player at the club. (if you believe the papers...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 2 hours ago, sne said: He's been offered a new deal at Hull, making him the highest paid player at the club. (if you believe the papers...) that 1 goal in 7 games and 5 in 35 Premier League games really earned him that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakotaDakota Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Robbie Brady, Not fussed about anyone else. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 1 minute ago, LakotaDakota said: Robbie Brady, Not fussed about anyone else. I think that's a bit of wishful thinking, can't see him dropping down a division Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakotaDakota Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 2 minutes ago, sir_gary_cahill said: I think that's a bit of wishful thinking, can't see him dropping down a division He plays for Norwich... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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