wazzap24 Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 31 minutes ago, Gary Thomas said: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04bxjlv?ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_5_live_sports_extra&ns_source=twitter&ns_linkname=radio_and_music Bruce targets immediate Premier League return for Aston Villa New Aston Villa boss Steve Bruce has told 5 live Sport he has not given up hope of an immediate return to the Premier League this season. Bruce has won promotion to the Premier League four times - twice with Villa's local rivals Birmingham - and is hoping he can do the same with his new club having replaced Roberto Di Matteo. "When I went into Birmingham we were 15th going up to Christmas and we managed to get out of the division and I hope we can replicate it," he said. "We need to go on a run but I have not given up hope of getting this club back where it should be, in the Premier League," Bruce added. This clip is taken from 5 live Sport, Thursday 13 October 2016. It's a big task from where we are now, but there is still a chance of the play offs. Looking at the average point requirements over the past 4 seasons for both automatic and PO positions, then taking current position into account, from here we need an approx average of 2.28 ppg for automatic and 1.85 for 6th. In real terms it's winning 6 and drawing one of every 10 games for play offs and 7 wins, 2 draws in every 10 for 2nd. Roughly, I think. Auto's have gone, play offs still possible. Just. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TRO Posted October 13, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2016 (edited) At a time that there is so much bad press towards football people. Steve Bruce takes a job with no agreement on the length of his contract....... Shows how much he wants the job Shows his passion for the job as opposed to the money Is testimony to the confidence of the man. I think the first impressions bode well Edited October 13, 2016 by TRO 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 2 hours ago, VillaCas said: You know exactly what I mean you're just choosing to pretend otherwise. I don't remember saying he buys old players but on the whole I think his record is very average It's your option to think my opinion on who we would have prefered to sign is bollocks. Likewise I think your keen support of RDM was bollocks but we are all entitled to differing opinions. I'm pretty sure that if Wagner was available we would have appointed him I understand your point, but you've cited managers that have nothing to do with it - or, rather, ones that have no background of developing... well, anything. Nothing on transfers then. But yes, your opinion of course... ...same as the last bit, but this just has no grounding. Why would you think the club preferred someone else when it hasn't happened at all? There's just absolutely nothing to suggest Wagner was a preferred target. Nothing! But yes, easy to label it an "opinion" and move on. Fair enough ("Keen support of RDM" - lol) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Deisler123 Posted October 13, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2016 Hi Sir, a win on Saturday will be nice. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessiWillSignForVilla Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 2 hours ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Absolutely disgusting isn't it? Also not actually true. If you don't arbitrarily cut off the Bournemouth game to make it worse, it's 8 in our last 55. Not saying it's good, but why lie to make the shitshow look even worse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 6 hours ago, BOF said: One thing I always look forward to with every new manager is who he spots in the youth/reserve side and brings in to the matchday squad. You'd think given the imbalance in our midfield that Bruce would try someone like Lyden. Hopefully there'll be some surprised in store. I dont think his record at bringing through youth is any good. cant remember many at blues, wigan, sunderland or hull through the youth team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 11 minutes ago, wazzap24 said: It's a big task from where we are now, but there is still a chance of the play offs. Looking at the average point requirements over the past 4 seasons for both automatic and PO positions, then taking current position into account, from here we need an approx average of 2.28 ppg for automatic and 1.85 for 6th. In real terms it's winning 6 and drawing one of every 10 games for play offs and 7 wins, 2 draws in every 10 for 2nd. Roughly, I think. Auto's have gone, play offs still possible. Just. It's still very possible for top 6. We can only do it thinking short term, if we think we need roughly 75 points to make 6th then yes that is a massive ask but I look at it like this...if we can have the usual new manager bounce in next few games of say a win v Wolves, draw at Reading and then win at home to Fulham then that will be 17 points so we should only be 4-5 points off play offs with still 30 odd games left. Automatic promotion is certainly a pipe dream imo...we really would have to go on a storming run for couple of months to be in contention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn1982 Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 9 minutes ago, TRO said: At a time that there is so much bad press towards football people. Steve Bruce takes a job with no agreement on the length of his contract....... Shows how much he wants the job Shows his passion for the job as opposed to the money Is testimony to the confidence of the man. I think the first impressions bode well Rolling contracts are ideal all round for managers. At any time you've got 12 months left. If we sack him he gets 12 months pay which is the norm when getting rid I believe anyway. If you give a short term one it gives the wrong impression. The club is doing good stuff off the pitch now it's up to Bruce to sort it out on it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 2 minutes ago, VillaChris said: It's still very possible for top 6. We can only do it thinking short term, if we think we need roughly 75 points to make 6th then yes that is a massive ask but I look at it like this...if we can have the usual new manager bounce in next few games of say a win v Wolves, draw at Reading and then win at home to Fulham then that will be 17 points so we should only be 4-5 points off play offs with still 30 odd games left. Automatic promotion is certainly a pipe dream imo...we really would have to go on a storming run for couple of months to be in contention. Unless that powerhouse Huddersfield blow up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Richard Posted October 13, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2016 3 hours ago, Gary Thomas said: https://www.facebook.com/avfcofficial/ Spoke well I thought, but acid test comes Saturday. To be fair that was a decent interview where he seems genuinely honoured to be here. I am not warming to him , as I'm a cold hearted bastard , but fair play for that I'm thawing a little 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 2 hours ago, Keyblade said: So apparently we've only won 4 games out of the last 54. Just wow. I would imagine we have probably won about 30 league games since 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Thomas Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 Just now, VillaChris said: It's still very possible for top 6. We can only do it thinking short term, if we think we need roughly 75 points to make 6th then yes that is a massive ask but I look at it like this...if we can have the usual new manager bounce in next few games of say a win v Wolves, draw at Reading and then win at home to Fulham then that will be 17 points so we should only be 4-5 points off play offs with still 30 odd games left. Automatic promotion is certainly a pipe dream imo...we really would have to go on a storming run for couple of months to be in contention. It is possible, especially if we could go on a little run. Different people have looked at this in different ways, but in simple terms we have to win 'just over' half our games - so think 5 wins every 10 games, with a few more draws, and we'll be thereabouts. Do believe Bruce will get this team winning - all depends how quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 13, 2016 Author Share Posted October 13, 2016 I watched the press conference you can see how thrilled he is with this role. Loved the potato head referenceAlso admits we are biggest club he has ever managed av some of that blosers! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 Just now, pacbuddies said: Unless that powerhouse Huddersfield blow up. Then one of Norwich/Newcastle will take advantage. Top 2 is usually 85 points...we'd have to win 25 games to do that.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 Loved his comments regarding the potato head jibes 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 3 minutes ago, Richard said: To be fair that was a decent interview where he seems genuinely honoured to be here. I am not warming to him , as I'm a cold hearted bastard , but fair play for that I'm thawing a little similar for me, the initial anger is wearing off but he will not get as much leeway as others did before. drops Westwood and doesnt return Gabby and Richards and he is flying 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 8 minutes ago, dn1982 said: Rolling contracts are ideal all round for managers. At any time you've got 12 months left. If we sack him he gets 12 months pay which is the norm when getting rid I believe anyway. If you give a short term one it gives the wrong impression. The club is doing good stuff off the pitch now it's up to Bruce to sort it out on it!! O'Neill always had a rolling contract. It makes a lot more sense just to pay a year off than continually giving managers 3 year deals and then sacking them after 6 months as in the case of our three previous managers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted October 13, 2016 Moderator Share Posted October 13, 2016 1 hour ago, dn1982 said: Don't the 2nd teams have to follow the 1st teams ethos? Wagner is now the lead person at his club. He hasn't built a club which was what they were arguing about. No the original and only point I was responding to was that he has 40-odd games as a manager. He doesn't. He has nigh on 200. Anyhoo I'm going off topic now ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 Anywhere I can watch the press conference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted October 13, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted October 13, 2016 (edited) 1 minute ago, omariqy said: Anywhere I can watch the press conference? I watched it here: Facebook (credit to @Gary Thomas for posting it earlier) Edited October 13, 2016 by alreadyexists 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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