TheAuthority Posted October 15, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted October 15, 2021 1 minute ago, TheStagMan said: Yes, in the same way being punched in the face is better than being kicked in the nuts! Jesus, that is terrible! Can't believe he has a net spend approaching 100m !!!! In fairness the Bruce (tin hat on) That probably includes Joelinton for 40 million who was bought before Bruce was appointed when they didn't have a manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 19 minutes ago, TheAuthority said: In fairness the Bruce (tin hat on) That probably includes Joelinton for 40 million who was bought before Bruce was appointed when they didn't have a manager. He signed after Bruce was appointed, clearly not a Bruce signing but he did have quotes praising him He did spend big wages though on free agents Hendrick and Fraser who were out of contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted October 16, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted October 16, 2021 4 hours ago, Zatman said: He signed after Bruce was appointed, clearly not a Bruce signing but he did have quotes praising him He did spend big wages though on free agents Hendrick and Fraser who were out of contract Hendrick Can you imagine who we would have signed if we'd got promoted under him and Xia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted October 16, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted October 16, 2021 10 hours ago, QldVilla said: Don’t agree with this. Sport has always evolved, it’s whether you have the resources available to you as a coach to evolve. Ferguson was an old school coach and still out coached modern day coaches because he evolved and had the resources to do so. Sport science is an important factor, but it still comes down to man management and being tactically astute. Fergie constantly upgraded his back room staff in order to stay relevant and up to date with coaching methods. I don't think a lot of managers do this for some reason. Potentially as a lot of managers don't have the history of success to fall back on and justify why they don't need to be doing this stuff and avoid challenge. I reckon a lot of owners would also question why am I paying you so much when you're not doing the technical stuff, why can't I just get your number 2 to do it instead? Fergie also retired 8 or 9 years ago so doesn't really fit the point KMitch made about how much football has evolved in the last 10 years. Even Jose appears to be struggling to keep up to date with the modern game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QldVilla Posted October 16, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted October 16, 2021 38 minutes ago, Rds1983 said: Fergie constantly upgraded his back room staff in order to stay relevant and up to date with coaching methods. I don't think a lot of managers do this for some reason. Potentially as a lot of managers don't have the history of success to fall back on and justify why they don't need to be doing this stuff and avoid challenge. I reckon a lot of owners would also question why am I paying you so much when you're not doing the technical stuff, why can't I just get your number 2 to do it instead? Fergie also retired 8 or 9 years ago so doesn't really fit the point KMitch made about how much football has evolved in the last 10 years. Even Jose appears to be struggling to keep up to date with the modern game. Fergie was an example, but all coaches grow and develop, its not just the last 10 years, some don't get opportunities, or have money to work with talented players. My opinion of Bruce is the game past him by a few years ago, but doesn't make him a bad manager. If an elite manager had the Newcastle squad to work with would they be breaking into the top 4, no, maybe top 10 just, but that would be about it. KMitch was making the point that sport science was why Bruce wasn't good enough and it couldn't be farther from the truth. An an elite level there's no difference between the sports departments, only how much money you get to use and in Newcastle's case they would have an average budget which isn't the fault of Bruce, but the previous owner who ran the club into the ground. People may not be fans of Bruce as a manager, but he's not a bad manager, just an average one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 He came out swinging at the media. His only supporters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Quote Woodgate, who won eight England caps, added: "The way Steve Bruce has been treated has been disgusting. This is a manager with his 1,000th game, that is a sign of a successful manager, showing the longevity in the game. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58931179 Oh my God. He's statistically the worst manager in the top flight ever and has chucked a load of dough at it and is in the relegation zone. STFU. He's shite!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Where’s he going next then? He will be sacked soon enough. My money’s on Middlesbrough, not too far away and the perfect sort of club for Bruce. They won’t expect attractive football, he can steady them at the back, and if they’re really lucky he’ll sign them a few expensive journeymen and they’ll have a crack at the playoffs. Maybe even getting top six, before falling away to 8th at the end of the season. Which of course will be progress, and a good finish for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Who could they get that is better... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Platt Posted October 16, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted October 16, 2021 32 minutes ago, It's Your Round said: Where’s he going next then? He will be sacked soon enough. My money’s on Middlesbrough, not too far away and the perfect sort of club for Bruce. They won’t expect attractive football, he can steady them at the back, and if they’re really lucky he’ll sign them a few expensive journeymen and they’ll have a crack at the playoffs. Maybe even getting top six, before falling away to 8th at the end of the season. Which of course will be progress, and a good finish for them Boro have Warnock so more of the same. I believe Bruce is still Midlands based so I expect the unwashed might be interested to save them from relegation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 The most thin skinned thick skinned bloke you've ever seen. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted October 16, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted October 16, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, rodders0223 said: The most thin skinned thick skinned bloke you've ever seen. Still in the job, that’ll shut a few of ‘em up. Edited October 16, 2021 by fightoffyour 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Personally think he should stay on, no rush to kick him out. 8 million to get the sack though, I wouldn't worry too much, he's played a blinder staying till the takeover, he may have knew it was gonna happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 3 hours ago, S-Platt said: Boro have Warnock so more of the same. I believe Bruce is still Midlands based so I expect the unwashed might be interested to save them from relegation. Sure he is a landlord in the area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 (edited) What a terrible person. Edited October 16, 2021 by Tomaszk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Honestly think he'll retire from management and just do pundit work from time to time. He's been a manager for 25 years now, managed likes of us and his hometown club and I think early 60s so while football management is a form of a drug think he should pack it in as he's certainly made more than enough from pay offs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 On 16/10/2021 at 11:34, rodders0223 said: The most thin skinned thick skinned bloke you've ever seen. Aside from his shitty little son. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 if you listen to stories that may or may not be true, internally i have seen stories that he is actually a nice guy and cares about his players etc. In the media though, the things he comes out with and the way he speaks makes him really....really unlikeable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Imagine being a grown man and being on the front page of the BBC, crying that people aren't nice to your old man. What a **** banter family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted October 17, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted October 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Davkaus said: Imagine being a grown man and being on the front page of the BBC, crying that people aren't nice to your old man. What a **** banter family. It won't actually upset him. He'll just be doing all he can to ensure that his dad doesn't get painted as useless and gets hired again. That way he'll get an extra million or two inheritance. It's pure media manipulation and PR spin. I also wouldn't be surprised if he got paid for that article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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