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1 hour ago, bannedfromHandV said:

Ultimately yes, but before he’s castigated it may be worth considering that he isn’t/wasn’t even aware of it, depends how involved he is with keeping in touch with the 3rd party management company. 
 

It’s possible of course that he’s fully aware and therefore a knob but that’s not exactly clear at this point.

I'd have thought he'd have had to have at least some say in any eviction notice.  I'd find it difficult to believe otherwise, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt safe in the knowledge that this protest will have gotten back to him at some point. It was picked up on Twitter and I believe the photos have gone to national news outlets too. 

 

1 hour ago, rodders0223 said:

He's been in football for 40 sodding years why does he need to buy up cheap property. Bloody tory arsehole.

 

And I'm going to be fair to Bruce here too, he's probably acting on financial advice.  Becoming a landlord is something most people with spare money get told to do, I'm sure Bruce doesn't need the money to keep a roof over his head and there's absolutely no excuse for him being a slum lord but in the real world rich folk are always going to buy property for profit. 

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4 hours ago, bannedfromHandV said:

Ultimately yes, but before he’s castigated it may be worth considering that he isn’t/wasn’t even aware of it, depends how involved he is with keeping in touch with the 3rd party management company. 
 

It’s possible of course that he’s fully aware and therefore a knob but that’s not exactly clear at this point.

I'm afraid being unaware you are a slum landlord is no excuse. It wouldn't surprise at all if he was clueless until it hit the papers. 

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36 minutes ago, Xela said:

A lot of footballers /ex footballers are landlords. 

It's always been the way. 

Jimmy Dugdale used to run The Boars Head in Perry Barr and The Sherwood in Yardley Wood. 

You would think the modern lot could get better jobs now though wouldn't you.

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40 minutes ago, Xela said:

A lot of footballers /ex footballers are landlords. 

True, a lot of wealthy people invest in property.

The dig at him for doing so is an odd one.

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3 hours ago, The_Steve said:

Alex Bruce retweeted the stuff about his dad being a slum landlord. What the heck. 

People are only angry cos Bruce used to manage Slum Landlords United, he’s doing a good job, the fans don’t understand. 

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They wouldn't have had to go to hospital if they had put their boots on and dust themselves off.

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1 hour ago, Genie said:

True, a lot of wealthy people invest in property.

The dig at him for doing so is an odd one.

He's not getting criticised for investing in property, he's getting criticised for being a slum landlord. Very different things. 

As for whether or not he knows about this, no tenant would be evicted without the landlords say so. Also, due to the potential legal exposure, it would be negligent if the management company didn't make him aware once the tenants went to hospital. 

It's 100% a personal thing whether or not you think an investor has an obligation to invest ethically. I personally do, particularly in this instance as I've dealt with slum landlords in the past. I'm sure literally everyone would be outraged at someone investing in a builder of concentration camps. It's just about where you choose to draw your line. 

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Not defending him but maybe he purchased on the advice of an advisor twenty odd years ago as part of a portfolio before he had amassed his promotion specialist fortune and the agency are liable for the poor conditions unknown to potato head? 
 

I would however love it if Alex was in anyway shape or form involved 

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I can understand footballers (or anyone with obscene wealth) investing in property.

The rental income looks like a pittance for them (which it is), but then the property is still a £50k-£200k asset that they can sell off if they need to, should the management gigs dry up or they have a financial disaster like their failed plan to become the next JK Rowling.

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3 minutes ago, Rob182 said:

I can understand footballers (or anyone with obscene wealth) investing in property.

The rental income looks like a pittance for them (which it is), but then the property is still a £50k-£200k asset that they can sell off if they need to, should the management gigs dry up or they have a financial disaster like their failed plan to become the next JK Rowling.

More Wagatha Christie than Rowling but get the drift 

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9 hours ago, Follyfoot said:

Not defending him but maybe he purchased on the advice of an advisor twenty odd years ago as part of a portfolio before he had amassed his promotion specialist fortune and the agency are liable for the poor conditions unknown to potato head? 

That's my assumption - probably from when he was at sha and nearing the end of his playing career - wages back then were good, but not by today's standards. Playing career almost over, he'd have been advised to invest in property (or at least many players were). I'm assuming, like you, that he's not going to be doing anything other than have a company manage that for him.

IT's appalling to have sub-standard property that can make tenants ill, and then evict them and treat them so appallingly and it reflects really badly on him, even if it's not primarily his doing. He's not, nor has he ever been my cup of tea as a manager, but he's seemed like a decent human being, hence my not assuming he knew about what was going on. He needs to sort it, mind.

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1 hour ago, Sam-AVFC said:

It surprises how many people believe legitimate property management companies would spend their clients money on litigation without clearing it first! 

Not defending Bruce but there's different levels of notification and clearing with landlords isn't there. It could have been 'we're going to litigate against a tenant who's just been in hospital because the property is in such a bad way it made them ill' or it could have been 'we're going to litigate as they haven't paid rent in months'. We don't know the level of detail that was passed on to Bruce and can only assume that he should have acted better. We do know the tenant was made ill and has been treated badly and that the property management company should have acted better. 

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