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1 minute ago, Stevo985 said:

You’ve not read many of my posts then if you think I’ve defended the job he did here. I might have said it’s not as bad as some people make out, which it isn’t, but I don’t think he did a very good job. 

And none of your post addresses my point. Think of him what you will, but I don’t think taking this job when any other manager in husband position would do the same is a bad thing. 

 

Maybe you should re-read your old posts then. 🙂

Again - you miss the point of my post. It is the hypocrisy of the man if he takes the job.

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Just now, Tomaszk said:

Prentend it's Tim in this position and you'll enjoy it just as much. You'll see how funny it is.

Why doesn't he walk out on Wednesday to go to his dream job?

Well it could never be Tim in this position because he’ll never have another managerial job, let alone another club wanting him at the same time. 

But if it was I’d still hate Tim, but I wouldn’t be blaming him for leaving his current club to take a much bigger job at a much bigger club in a bigger league for probably a bigger salary. 

Every other manager would do the same. But again because it’s Bruce it’s a terrible thing 😂

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3 minutes ago, Tomaszk said:

Prentend it's Tim in this position and you'll enjoy it just as much. You'll see how funny it is.

Why doesn't he walk out on Wednesday to go to his dream job?

Loyalty, innit 🙂 Nothing to do with money.

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Just now, TheStagMan said:

Maybe you should re-read your old posts then. 🙂

Again - you miss the point of my post. It is the hypocrisy of the man if he takes the job.

I don’t need to. I wrote them. If you read any of them you’ll see I wanted him gone as soon as the play off final finished and think he did a pretty average job overall. 

Whats hypocritical about it? Has he been saying that managers shouldn’t leave their clubs to take better jobs or something?

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1 minute ago, Stevo985 said:

Well it could never be Tim in this position because he’ll never have another managerial job, let alone another club wanting him at the same time. 

But if it was I’d still hate Tim, but I wouldn’t be blaming him for leaving his current club to take a much bigger job at a much bigger club in a bigger league for probably a bigger salary. 

Every other manager would do the same. But again because it’s Bruce it’s a terrible thing 😂

Bruce who bangs on about loyalty and how he is misunderstood and never given a fair chance.  Its fine for him to take a "better" job. I just think he is a hypocrite and basically a bit of a shit when something "better" comes along and he jumps ship leaving a mess behind. Not every manager would do the same thing.

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10 minutes ago, Stevo985 said:

You’ve not read many of my posts then if you think I’ve defended the job he did here. I might have said it’s not as bad as some people make out, which it isn’t, but I don’t think he did a very good job. 

And none of your post addresses my point. Think of him what you will, but I don’t think taking this job when any other manager in husband position would do the same is a bad thing. 

 

Guys, look! Stevo definitely thinks Bruce is marriage material.

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4 minutes ago, TheStagMan said:

Bruce who bangs on about loyalty and how he is misunderstood and never given a fair chance.  Its fine for him to take a "better" job. I just think he is a hypocrite and basically a bit of a shit when something "better" comes along and he jumps ship leaving a mess behind. Not every manager would do the same thing.

If you say so. 

Like I said I think any other manager in the championship would take the Newcastle job if offered it now. If it was someone like  Nathan Jones taking the Newcastle job nobody on here would bat an eyelid. 

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2 minutes ago, Stevo985 said:

But if it was I’d still hate Tim, but I wouldn’t be blaming him for leaving his current club to take a much bigger job at a much bigger club in a bigger league for probably a bigger salary. 

You'd be swimming round in the satisfaction.

He hasn't left yet, it's really strange, I'm confused. I'm sure he'll go soon and not worry about the money clubs will have to spend on him.

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4 minutes ago, Tomaszk said:

You'd be swimming round in the satisfaction.

He hasn't left yet, it's really strange, I'm confused. I'm sure he'll go soon and not worry about the money clubs will have to spend on him.

I really wouldn’t. But thanks for telling me what I would be doing. 

Could you let me know what I’ll be wanting for dinner later?

 

I imagine Bruce hasn’t left yet because Newcastle and Sheff Wed are sorting out compensation. You know rather than him walking out and leaving Sheff Wed in the same position but with no money to show for it. 

But im sure that will get twisted into a negative somehow 😬

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9 minutes ago, Stevo985 said:

If you say so. 

Like I said I think any other manager in the championship would take the Newcastle job if offered it now. If it was someone like  Nathan Jones taking the Newcastle job nobody on here would bat an eyelid. 

It's not me that says so, it is him, his family and the media.

Whilst I agree that many championship managers would take it, I don't think all of them would. My issue with Bruce taking it is the way he bangs on about loyalty and how everyone sells the narrative about what a good bloke he is, how you can rely on him not to let you down, meanwhile he is ready to jump at the first chance. If he backed himself as a manager and wanted to re-build his reputation as a promotion specialist he would stay at Sheffield and prove himself. He takes the job at Newcastle, that's fine - he just shows himself up to be the journeyman he is, that's also fine if he changes his image to match.

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37 minutes ago, Stevo985 said:

I don’t need to. I wrote them. If you read any of them you’ll see I wanted him gone as soon as the play off final finished and think he did a pretty average job overall. 

Whats hypocritical about it? Has he been saying that managers shouldn’t leave their clubs to take better jobs or something?

Gosh - Stevo,  Surely  see what stagman is saying here ??

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23 minutes ago, TheStagMan said:

Hmmmmmmm, One game away..... again with this crap. With the resources at his disposal we should have been autos, not in the play offs and in the playoffs we put in the most gutless, cowardly performance you can imagine. It's not like we lost to an unlucky goal. We scraped past Boro and didn't try to win the final. All down to the manager and his tactics.

Tactics which will most likely see Newcastle relegated.

 

You have been very supportive of Bruce throughout and still, yet I read your posts on Smith (the man who actually DID get us promoted - from arguably a worse position) and they are mostly negative and doubtful. 

I don't get the support for Bruce and the negativity you have shown previously to Smith. Very odd.

 

If he does go to Newcastle then it will be a very luck escape for Sheffield. 

You seem to be set on there's only one way to play football.

There are many ways to win a football game. Burnley are doing very well for their size of club with a so called "out of date" coach and i don't see them getting relegated anytime soon.

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31 minutes ago, villalad21 said:

He did he's best at our club and it didn't work out. We were one game away from getting promoted under him.

I don't get the hate towards him.

I will wish him best of luck if he get's the Newcastle job.

The hate is because he is a rocket polisher. We have had other failed managers yet their threads are quiet

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3 minutes ago, TheStagMan said:

It's not me that says so, it is him, his family and the media.

Whilst I agree that many championship managers would take it, I don't think all of them would. My issue with Bruce taking it is the way he bangs on about loyalty and how everyone sells the narrative about what a good bloke he is, how you can rely on him not to let you down, meanwhile he is ready to jump at the first chance. If he backed himself as a manager and wanted to re-build his reputation as a promotion specialist he would stay at Sheffield and prove himself. He takes the job at Newcastle, that's fine - he just shows himself up to be the journeyman he is, that's also fine if he changes his image to match.

There’s a lot of huge assumptions in there to suit your narrative. So I think I’ll leave it there 👍🏻

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9 minutes ago, villalad21 said:

You seem to be set on there's only one way to play football.

There are many ways to win a football game. Burnley are doing very well for their size of club with a so called "out of date" coach and i don't see them getting relegated anytime soon.

To be brutally honest, I see Dyche as a better coach than Bruce - however that is like comparing which turd you would rather step in. You make the point yourself there "size of club" - a coach with pretty much the biggest budget and club in a division (Villa in the Championship) should not be setting out defensively - if a coach is too limited to adapt to the environment he is in, then he is not good enough, plain and simple. 

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12 minutes ago, Stevo985 said:

There’s a lot of huge assumptions in there to suit your narrative. So I think I’ll leave it there 👍🏻

There really aren't. Pretty much everything there is an observation. 

An assumption is saying that every manager in the championship would take the Newcastle job, when even out of work managers have turned it down. Anyway as you are leaving it there I will too - have a great Sunday - The sun is out. Enjoy! 👍

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29 minutes ago, Stevo985 said:

I really wouldn’t. But thanks for telling me what I would be doing. 

Could you let me know what I’ll be wanting for dinner later?

 

I imagine Bruce hasn’t left yet because Newcastle and Sheff Wed are sorting out compensation. You know rather than him walking out and leaving Sheff Wed in the same position but with no money to show for it. 

But im sure that will get twisted into a negative somehow 😬

This is neither positive or negative on Bruce, but I think (?) that if Bruce resigned now, Wednesday would still be due some compensation.

Didn’t Lambert technically resign but we still had to pay Norwich a bit in compensation? I remember there being some legal goings on afterwards.

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Dyche is absolutely a better coach. Steve is just a huge bloke who shouts about pies. In all seriousness i think he’ll stay in the job long enough to guarantee relegation, 15-25 point range after 38 games.

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38 minutes ago, TheStagMan said:

There really aren't. Pretty much everything there is an observation. 

An assumption is saying that every manager in the championship would take the Newcastle job, when even out of work managers have turned it down. Anyway as you are leaving it there I will too - have a great Sunday - The sun is out. Enjoy! 👍

I’m on a beach in Mauritius so very much enjoying the sun. 

Whatever our differences on Bruce are, enjoy a sunny Sunday 😊

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