Grasshopper Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 40 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: You even said yourself before kick off that Bruce had selected the correct team (for only the second time ever in your view). Now you are having a dig he played Jed at the back. Thats why your views hold no credibility. I can't stand Bruce as a manager but some of your posts are cringe worthy and make you sound like you know nothing what's so ever about football. I think you are just p***ed off with me because £10 of your money is on its way to VT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 25, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted December 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Grasshopper said: well at least the new guy would have a headstart over all the other clubs at f******** it upp What does this even mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Grasshopper said: I think you are just p***ed off with me because £10 of your money is on its way to VT Haha I forgot all about the bet! It was more of a case im just pissed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Stevo985 said: What does this even mean? Could we have a new manager ,maybe ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, sheepyvillian said: Could we have a new manager ,maybe ? its ok, you got it. when someone has „nowhere else to go“ with their arguements, they reply with a question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 23 minutes ago, Grasshopper said: its ok, you got it. when someone has „nowhere else to go“ with their arguements, they reply with a question It's funny though ,isn't it . All we want is a different manager, someone with a bit of ,for want of a better word, panache. It's nothing personal ,just a deep concern for the love of a great ,historical, football team. But like I said ,Gh ,it's funny though ,isn't it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junxs Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 6 hours ago, Stevo985 said: The reason for me is as I’ve said above. Yes our results against teams around us haven’t been good but we’ve played all of them except for Wolves in our bad runs when we have injuries and we’re in poor form. If we’d played Derby and Sheffield Utd a month/6 weeks before we did I think we’d have beaten them both. The assumption that we’ll be in better form and have a full strength team by the playoffs is of course a gamble. But not as much of a gamble as changing the manager at this stage. Imo. The same Sheffield United who lost 5 of their last 6 games coming into the game? They were sitting 2nd 6 weeks ago.. you think we would have had a better chance of beating them at their best rather than their worst? I really admire your optimism but its misguided, badly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 25, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted December 25, 2017 2 hours ago, Grasshopper said: its ok, you got it. when someone has „nowhere else to go“ with their arguements, they reply with a question What argument? I don’t know what your post meant so I asked “At least the new guy would have a head start over all the other clubs at **** it up” i don’t know what that means. Why do you and a couple of other posters have such a problem with people asking what your posts mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 25, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted December 25, 2017 2 hours ago, sheepyvillian said: Could we have a new manager ,maybe ? Maybe. I don’t see how what I’ve quoted means that but fair enough if it does. Bit of a weird reply if so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 25, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted December 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Junxs said: The same Sheffield United who lost 5 of their last 6 games coming into the game? They were sitting 2nd 6 weeks ago.. you think we would have had a better chance of beating them at their best rather than their worst? I really admire your optimism but its misguided, badly. Fair point. I was referring to our form rather than theirs to be fair. Sheff Utd were always likely to fall away to be fair. I think we’re far more likely to regain good form than they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted December 25, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted December 25, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: I think we’re far more likely to regain good form than they are. They are a promoted team punching way above their weight, we should regain form quicker than them. Then again we should also never give up a 2 goal lead when playing them at home. Any comparison to Sheffield United just shows how far we've fallen....... and we are still falling Edited December 25, 2017 by Villan_of_oz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 25, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted December 25, 2017 Just now, Villan_of_oz said: They are a league one team punching way above their weight, we shpuld regain form quicker than them. Then again we should also never give up a 2 goal lead when playing them at home. Any comparison to Sheffield United just showa how far we've fallen....... and we ate still falling Well yes. That was entirely my point really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted December 25, 2017 Moderator Share Posted December 25, 2017 7 hours ago, srsmithusa said: What if we keep him and the result stays crap? What then? If we keep him and the results are crap, we should sack him. That seems a sensible and logical process and conclusion. At the moment, the results aren't crap, we're sixth - the results are okay, they're not wildly brilliant but they aren't bad either. It's not a matter of the results "staying" crap, they'd have to change - so, for now, I say we keep him and in answer to your question, if things change then we should rethink that decision based on that change. For me, the results aren't the major reason to criticise Bruce - the football is the concern. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted December 25, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted December 25, 2017 4 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Well yes. That was entirely my point really. Then whilst you won't agree with some of us, it shouldn't be hard really to understand why some of us would like Bruce gone sooner than later. Would it be risky, hell yes! In my view letting this go on is just as risky. There are now a few managers who are available that I would take in a heartbeat over Bruce staying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted December 25, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted December 25, 2017 It won't happen but if we lose to Brentford I want him sacked. New manager in with the January window for them to sign 1 or 2 players and enough games to get the team playing decent football and hopefully still make the playoffs.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 25, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted December 25, 2017 8 minutes ago, Villan_of_oz said: Then whilst you won't agree with some of us, it shouldn't be hard really to understand why some of us would like Bruce gone sooner than later. Would it be risky, hell yes! In my view letting this go on is just as risky. There are now a few managers who are available that I would take in a heartbeat over Bruce staying. I understand it perfectly and have said as much several times. It comes down to there being a tipping point in when we think Bruce isn’t going to make the playoffs. I don’t think we’ve reached that point yet. Some people do and that’s fair enough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStagMan Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 22 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: If we keep him and the results are crap, we should sack him. That seems a sensible and logical process and conclusion. At the moment, the results aren't crap, we're sixth - the results are okay, they're not wildly brilliant but they aren't bad either. It's not a matter of the results "staying" crap, they'd have to change - so, for now, I say we keep him and in answer to your question, if things change then we should rethink that decision based on that change. For me, the results aren't the major reason to criticise Bruce - the football is the concern. 3 points from the last 12 is pretty crap to be fair..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted December 26, 2017 Moderator Share Posted December 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, TheStagMan said: 3 points from the last 12 is pretty crap to be fair..... Yup - but 15 from the 15 before that is very, very good and 18 out of 27 sounds a lot better. We've got 38 from 23 games - that's okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted December 26, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted December 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, TheStagMan said: 3 points from the last 12 is pretty crap to be fair..... It is crap but not quite a big enough sample size but make it 3 from 15 and it's starts to look really ugly. Sackable ugly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn1982 Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 19 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: Yup - but 15 from the 15 before that is very, very good and 18 out of 27 sounds a lot better. We've got 38 from 23 games - that's okay. Okay for who? For what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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