Eastie Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 Just now, Lerner's Driver said: You Mr Pangloss, can expect all you like, but you are likely to be disappointed because you are merely a fan - that's my point. It’s Dr Pangloss 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 16 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I don't think fans even care about cohesive, fluid attacking football. We just want promotion. We were awful first half against Barnsley and look how happy fans were. We are grateful for small mercies.....but the Fluid, cohesive football sheepy talks about will at some stage be required, to acheive REAL progress. smash and grab football will only take you so far....its short termism and yes it can get results.....but the quality of play on the pitch is the tell tale sign. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lerner's Driver Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, Eastie said: It’s Dr Pangloss Apologies to the good Dr. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 1 minute ago, TRO said: We are grateful for small mercies.....but the Fluid, cohesive football sheepy talks about will at some stage be required, to acheive REAL progress. smash and grab football will only take you so far....its short termism and yes it can get results.....but the quality of play on the pitch is the tell tale sign. Results are the tell tale sign . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 Just now, Eastie said: Results are the tell tale sign . I would say Results are the Answer......I think what was alluded to, is you can only wing it so much.....we need to see quality play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted September 22, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted September 22, 2017 Be interesting to see how many players run ahead of the ball now the shackles are taken off, and everyone is less concerned with simply getting back! Somehow I just can't see it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 Just now, TRO said: I would say Results are the Answer......I think what was alluded to, is you can only wing it so much.....we need to see quality play. Preferably both but I’d take the result ahead of the performance every time . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TrentVilla Posted September 22, 2017 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted September 22, 2017 Bruce is in full self preservation mode now, the lies are flowing and every time he opens his mouth all he is doing is trying to manage the coming fall out for when the inevitable happens and he is sacked. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, TrentVilla said: Bruce is in full self preservation mode now, the lies are flowing and every time he opens his mouth all he is doing is trying to manage the coming fall out for when the inevitable happens and he is sacked. BeSides his comment the aim was staying in the division last season I also noticed his comment today that there’s been a lot of doom and gloom in recent weeks and rightly so ? Seems to change with the wind or maybe someone has had a word about criticising the fans ? Edited September 22, 2017 by Eastie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 3 hours ago, Stevo985 said: Is this actually happening? Even @TRO is caving these days. I don't think anyone has been claiming he needs more time for a while now. I'm not caving Stevo, but you can only defend a manager so much.....Gelling and time to blend is a legitimate claim, but it can only be valid for so long. I think we have a 4-4-2 line up that should get us promotion on paper.....but we must apply ourselves in order to fulfill those expectations. 11 Fully committed players No passengers A bench that is impressive and competitive A desire to win the game in hand A togetherness that is apparent A work ethic that is tangible players chasing lost causes players winning aerial balls to gain the assertion/upper hand Only then will the reputations on paper manifest itself in to good results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 1 minute ago, TRO said: I'm not caving Stevo, but you can only defend a manager so much.....Gelling and time to blend is a legitimate claim, but it can only be valid for so long. I think we have a 4-4-2 line up that should get us promotion on paper.....but we must apply ourselves in order to fulfill those expectations. 11 Fully committed players No passengers A bench that is impressive and competitive A desire to win the game in hand A togetherness that is apparent A work ethic that is tangible players chasing lost causes players winning aerial balls to gain the assertion/upper hand Only then will the reputations on paper manifest itself in to good results. Do the trokey cokey then you turn around - that’s what it’s all about Oi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 10 minutes ago, Eastie said: Preferably both but I’d take the result ahead of the performance every time . oh so would I. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 (edited) I am heading to Italy and venice after tomorrow’s game and will miss the burton and Bolton games but hope on my return next weekend that we are up in the top 6 and back in the hunt -if we are not with a 2 week international break ahead then Bruce will surely depart . Edited September 22, 2017 by Eastie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeyb Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 (edited) 46 minutes ago, TRO said: I would say Results are the Answer......I think what was alluded to, is you can only wing it so much.....we need to see quality play. Usually the teams that play the best football, to a formation and playing style that suits the players will be there or there abouts, you dont normally get teams who lack cohesion and style anywhere near. Edited September 22, 2017 by mykeyb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 18 minutes ago, TrentVilla said: Bruce is in full self preservation mode now, the lies are flowing and every time he opens his mouth all he is doing is trying to manage the coming fall out for when the inevitable happens and he is sacked. Sadly( IMO of course, but i would say that with any manager) but I think you are right. I am just concerned it will affect our play. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Willard Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 (edited) It’s only now he feels we can play two up top and play attacking expansive football? If that’s the case why haven’t you started to try and imply this attacking style into our games? He admitted we got lucky with the first goal, we aren’t going to get lucky every weekend. Edited September 22, 2017 by Lord Willard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 26 minutes ago, Eastie said: Interesting is his press conference today he says last season was all about staying in the division It's laughable it really is. We spent upwards of 50 million quid that season i very much think our ambition was to get promoted, he was basically appointed as a short term solution to get the club up that season and he failed miserably. 7 months on and we have not improved at all and because of this he should be sacked... It isn't rocket science. I think we can all agree that Bruce is not the long term solution. if were stuck down here for years to come which is looking probable thanks to the naivety shown by members of our board then we should give a younger manager with tactical nouse and a clear footballing style a chance to build. i've had enough of this kick and rush shit which is failing to get the best out of the players and i'm sure Hogan agrees. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 2 hours ago, Eastie said: Sadly I agree; one league title and one fa cup in the last 100 years suggests we are not as big as we like to think ; and though the European Cup was a great time for those of us around at the era it was 35 years ago . We ARE a big club. It does not mean we have a right to anything, that will have to be earned, but, you can re-write history, but you cannot change it. We simply are what we are, a big club, fallen on hard times. We need a bit more attitude down in this division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 44 minutes ago, TRO said: We are grateful for small mercies.....but the Fluid, cohesive football sheepy talks about will at some stage be required, to acheive REAL progress. smash and grab football will only take you so far....its short termism and yes it can get results.....but the quality of play on the pitch is the tell tale sign. The problem right now is smash and grab isn't even getting us results! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 At last Bruce says something I can agree with. Having spent a year saying his selection, tactics, and style are all about a fear of losing I finally hear him admitting it. What further reason does Tony need to get rid ? What a waste of everybody's time, support, patience and money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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