AvfcRigo82 Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 2 hours ago, Super-Villan said: That made me chuckle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 I think you'll find a lot of fans care deeply of how we play , hence the anti Bruce sentiment on VT , of course , most on here always want Villa to win , but would rather see us doing it with some panache and guile . Don't underestimate the desire for entertainment, something Bruce's Villa , in the main , seem to be devoid of . 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 2 hours ago, TRO said: If we think we can, we can.....if we think we can't we can't. Its really down to belief and application now.....The winning mentality has to shine through. My worry always is if teams want to get physical and close us down and get in our faces .....we have a recent tradition of feeling sorry for ourselves as opposed to applying our superior skills and skinning them.We should welcome that and treat it as a compliment not a chore. We generally do lack a bit of pace to get away from trouble, but we have to find a way to compensate.....when you start totting up fixtures they start to look harder.....we need to look at every team, game by game and no further. Then you will see with a full team, we CAN win every game. Oh, if only it was that easy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrassyNoel Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Grasshopper said: @TRO Great post. It seems to me that the formation and set up at Barnsley is as close to our best offering as can be . Steve Bruce needs to adopt a system that represents the best squad in the division like most folk have said. 4-4-2 gives us the best balance IMO and should be our default formation, subject to injuries and suspensions to key players. 4-2-3-1 is a possibility playing 2 holders for a tough away game 4-1-4-1 is another possibility, but leaves a striker too much to do. 4-5-1 should be avoided at all costs unless we are coming off a run of defeats and want to stop the rot. 4-3-3 is a possibility when the swagger comes back and we are winning comfortably....particularly at Home. 3-5-2 Is another formation I would avoid, with aging centre backs. 5-3-2 Is a formation we should never have to consider with our squad. Having said all of that.....11 players have to be on top of their game to win anything. I’m printing this. Edited September 21, 2017 by GrassyNoel Original post not quoted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStagMan Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 41 minutes ago, GrassyNoel said: It seems to me that the formation and set up at Barnsley is as close to our best offering as can be . Steve Bruce needs to adopt a system that represents the best squad in the division like most folk have said. 4-4-2 gives us the best balance IMO and should be our default formation, subject to injuries and suspensions to key players. 4-2-3-1 is a possibility playing 2 holders for a tough away game 4-1-4-1 is another possibility, but leaves a striker too much to do. 4-5-1 should be avoided at all costs unless we are coming off a run of defeats and want to stop the rot. 4-3-3 is a possibility when the swagger comes back and we are winning comfortably....particularly at Home. 3-5-2 Is another formation I would avoid, with aging centre backs. 5-3-2 Is a formation we should never have to consider with our squad. Having said all of that.....11 players have to be on top of their game to win anything. I’m printing this. Yes, good idea. Print it and post it to Steve Bruce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 3 hours ago, TRO said: But it kinda smacks to me of CSKA Moscow under O'Neill and we was looking for a bit of momentum then he played a depleted team ( presumably in an effort to protect the first team)and lost away 2-0.....we came back and in the league and failed a win until 9 games later against Hull......I still think that was his watershed moment. ......a moment we still haven't recovered from 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberman Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 Agreed. That was where it started to go downhill and has barely let up since. It was a tragic day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeyb Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 6 hours ago, TRO said: I think you make some fair points.....but did he have to make SO many changes.....a bit of momentum would have gone down well. I think some of the criticism aimed at him is fair......some of it is questionable. Didn't Wolves put out a changed 11 put up a decent performance and win..............motivation missing down VP maybe 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vreitti Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 Actually our downfall started when Laursen got injured in January of 2009. The way I remember it, we where winning the league at that time, but succumbed after that draw against our lovely neighbors. Anyways, Bruce out, still. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted September 21, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted September 21, 2017 10 hours ago, DevonIsAPlaceOnEarth said: I agree with the sentiment, but my feeling is that Bruce's "Shut people up" line will be accurate if we win the next two games comfortably. I know that is a hefty 'if'. I will gladly hold my hands up and I say I was wrong to call for him to go if we do that, and I hope others would do the same. I will gladly do the same, as I was a long time backer of Bruce. However I think there is more chance of me waking up with a third nut than winning the next 2 or 3 games 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, Villan_of_oz said: I will gladly do the same, as I was a long time backer of Bruce. However I think there is more chance of me waking up with a third nut than winning the next 2 or 3 games grow some Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frobisher Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 Bruce may or may not get us competing (I lean heavily towards not), but we will never be entertaining while he's in charge. After all these years of crap it feels like good football is something that happens to other teams. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srsmithusa Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 If Bruce gets us winning and promoted I will be giddy with delight. But I will always hold the view that he made a rediculous hash of things for the first 9-10 months and made the whole thing much more difficult with clear blunder after clear blunder. I will always puzzle over how that many mistakes can suddenly produce a winning machine. But giddy with delight. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashingqwerty Posted September 21, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted September 21, 2017 1 hour ago, mykeyb said: Didn't Wolves put out a changed 11 put up a decent performance and win..............motivation missing down VP maybe general formation and style of play was the same despite the changed 11. SB pretty much changed everything 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 5 minutes ago, flashingqwerty said: general formation and style of play was the same despite the changed 11. SB pretty much changed everything SB reverted to type Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, Rugeley Villa said: Ever fancied the job @TRO ? wouldn't have a clue.....much more to it, than picking a few formations. Edited September 22, 2017 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 5 hours ago, markavfc40 said: He said that Hogan had a knock in his interview after the game and I don't think we had another striker on the bench having already brought McCormack on. ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 5 hours ago, AntrimBlack said: Oh, if only it was that easy. I didn't say it was easy, but doable, with the right approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDuck Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 9 hours ago, sheepyvillian said: I think you'll find a lot of fans care deeply of how we play , hence the anti Bruce sentiment on VT , of course , most on here always want Villa to win , but would rather see us doing it with some panache and guile . Don't underestimate the desire for entertainment, something Bruce's Villa , in the main , seem to be devoid of . I don't care how we play as long as we get the points. I'm a Villa fan, not a West Ham fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 3 hours ago, MrDuck said: I don't care how we play as long as we get the points. I'm a Villa fan, not a West Ham fan. What have West Ham got to do with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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