JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 (edited) http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-slow-easy-play-13623023 Quote Aston Villa are too slow, easy to play against and have signed the wrong players - pundit Aston Villa have come under heavy fire for their start to the season When it comes to the summer of spending and the season so far - Aston Villa haven't done a lot right. At least that is the verdict of BBC WM pundit Martin O'Connor speaking on the station's football phone in show last night. O'Connor a former colleague of Steve Bruce at Birmingham City, believes Villa are an easy team to play against due to their lack of pace. The former Blues skipper also stated that some of the players that have been signed by the manager are not good enough to play for the club. O'Connor said: "I was there on Tuesday and I was disappointed in Steve and how Villa played against ten men, it is hard to break them down, we know that. "When you look at Villa since he got there though, nothing has really changed. "The squad has been like a merry-go-round. "I look at the squad and how they are trying to play, look at Wolves who get it down and try and play and be expansive and play through the lines. "I don't see it in Villa, I look at their personnel, Lansbury and Hourihane? I'm not having them. "It's horrible to say but the fans are starting to turn that little bit more now, you could hear them where we were sitting. "You need to beat Brentford and Boro at home, you need to beat Bristol City to be thought of as a favourite - I don't see it. "When you have the money available you have to spend it wisely, I don't think he has. "Lansbury, Hourihane and Bjarnason are not good enough to play for Aston Villa. "This is a big club and Steve Bruce is a big manager, is he big enough for this club? Is his recruitment good enough? "Villa have to not just win at Barnsley, they have to go on a run. "The problem is that they are too slow, it's too predictable, their is no energy and nobody to pull the team up and give them the energy that they need. "It's easy to play against them at times." Edited September 15, 2017 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 6 minutes ago, Villan4Life said: Just watched that Bruce interview he is saying some players signed in January have only been here 6 months? Make that 8 months Bruce!! He just makes up dates as he goes along I get bedding in periods and all that, but not this is bordering on insinuating that when you sign players in a transfer window, you are actually signing them for the season after the immediate one. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 14 minutes ago, Villan4Life said: Just watched that Bruce interview he is saying some players signed in January have only been here 6 months? Make that 8 months Bruce!! He just makes up dates as he goes along So why can other clubs make several signings and get results pretty fast - maybe their managers know how to use the players they sign 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 The worst thing about Bruce and the main reason why I turned when I did was because of the lies. He is telling a massive lie pretty much every week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Bullshitting Ridiculous Useless Championship Excuse maker (I avoided the obvious use for the C) 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 2 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Just a slight consideration to nullify the selective notion that we outclassed a team. Pedant point. I know I keep saying it but . it wasnt 60 minutes it was nearly 90 !!!!! Lost count of how many times I've heard they had 10 for 60 !! .. it means although our numbers were the same for 30 minutes they'd by far the harder task by then having already done an hour. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 36 minutes ago, Eastie said: So why can other clubs make several signings and get results pretty fast - maybe their managers know how to use the players they sign It's a false narrative - Tom Fox 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Anyway back to the point. His pronouncements are frankly ludicrous in all sorts of ways. Now, either he knows that, in which case he's taking us all for mugs and is a charlatan, or he doesn't and is the most unself aware man you could imagine. That don't sound like two good options to me. And I'm sure those 'upstairs' will have thought the same, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 8 minutes ago, terrytini said: Pedant point. I know I keep saying it but . it wasnt 60 minutes it was nearly 90 !!!!! Lost count of how many times I've heard they had 10 for 60 !! .. it means although our numbers were the same for 30 minutes they'd by far the harder task by then having already done an hour. Thanks for the clarification, I was even trying to give him some leeway.lol Not sure when Landsbury was sent off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 (edited) 48 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: I get bedding in periods and all that, but not this is bordering on insinuating that when you sign players in a transfer window, you are actually signing them for the season after the immediate one. lol Well it also begs the question if he thinks it takes players that long to bed in why did he discard McCormack and Tish so quickly ? but these are details, the last thing we should do is play his game so forget I did so Edited September 15, 2017 by terrytini 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Even his own defence of himself is pathetic. To counter the idea we are boring or defensive he manages to list the following - OUT OF NINE GAMES - " we weren't against Norwich" (ok) " we weren't against Wigan " ( well Steve Wigan reserves but go on then) "we had A CHANCE against Cardiff" "and A CHANCE against Reading" Brilliant Steve - thanks for highlighting how paltry it's been and showing the criticism levelled at you is entirely deserved. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 1 hour ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-slow-easy-play-13623023 Amazing how different a pundit who has watched us can be from Bruce's mates in the national media. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted September 15, 2017 Author Share Posted September 15, 2017 Bruce responds to claims that he is a "dinosaur" With all can we get thata better? Well im.sure 90% of managers would have git better return total than he has with this team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 3 hours ago, srsmithusa said: No he doesn't. He needs to prove me and the rest of his critics wrong. He can start any time now. I would be surprised if he didn't already know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-slow-easy-play-13623023 I find that hard to disagree with, he makes some references I have already in my posts Too easy to play against Predictable for an ex colleague as Martin is.....its quite Damning. ps I think he is right about the 3 players too. Edited September 15, 2017 by TRO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted September 15, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted September 15, 2017 38 minutes ago, terrytini said: Even his own defence of himself is pathetic. To counter the idea we are boring or defensive he manages to list the following - OUT OF NINE GAMES - " we weren't against Norwich" (ok) " we weren't against Wigan " ( well Steve Wigan reserves but go on then) "we had A CHANCE against Cardiff" "and A CHANCE against Reading" Brilliant Steve - thanks for highlighting how paltry it's been and showing the criticism levelled at you is entirely deserved. Yeah but in fairness, you're forgetting "we hit the bar the other night" too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villabromsgrove Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 I'm not particularly bothered by what Steve Bruce says, it's his actions or rather the mind blowing wrong choices that frustrate the hell out of me. For example, Adomah was our best assister last season even though Bruce started to freeze him out towards the back end of the season. Now he's had to wait for Green to get a long term injury before he gets a chance to play again. Even then he was only on the bench initially against Middlesbrough (probably because he's not defensive enough!). Once again the correct decision to bring Adomah on was forced on Bruce by circumstances rather than choice. When we played well against Norwich, the team selection was also forced upon him by his own admission. A short (but nowhere near complete) list of other things that frustrate me: Not playing Davis and Hogan on the pitch at the same time, when one clearly needs a hold up player alongside, and the other needs a partner spinning off him. Isolating a single striker and never seeing it as a problem. Trying to shoe horn Hutton into every team selection until Hutton finally made it impossible for him. Being afraid to come out of his own half in every away game. Trying to turn Bjarnason into a utility Bacuna mk2. Buying three right wingers. Turning us into one of the oldest teams in the division with almost no sell on value, damaging our future financial well being. Replacing Baker with Samba. Etc, etc, ad infinitum. He can say what he likes, but I'll judge him on his actions which are currently screwing us up every week! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 "They've got access to social media or they can ring a radio station, but I do believe the vast majority of the supporters are right behind myself and the team and can see that there's been progress made from what has been a very difficult period for the club over the last few years," he added. "I can't really engulf myself in that. If it's last chance saloon then so be it. If that's what they want then so be it. "I can't really answer that the way I would like to but if that's what they want then how can I deny it." "What's the fix? Off with my head and then somebody else comes in and changes it? "That's not the way forward surely because if that does then the club just engulfs itself in more mass change." http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-boss-steve-bruce-13624682.amp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisvilla4 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 So Bruce wants to create a "siege mentality" and alienate the fans? How does that work. Surely we should all be united. I've said it before but I think he's angling for push. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rodders0223 Posted September 15, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted September 15, 2017 4 minutes ago, Eastie said: "They've got access to social media or they can ring a radio station, but I do believe the vast majority of the supporters are right behind myself and the team and can see that there's been progress made from what has been a very difficult period for the club over the last few years," he added. "I can't really engulf myself in that. If it's last chance saloon then so be it. If that's what they want then so be it. "I can't really answer that the way I would like to but if that's what they want then how can I deny it." "What's the fix? Off with my head and then somebody else comes in and changes it? "That's not the way forward surely because if that does then the club just engulfs itself in more mass change." http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-boss-steve-bruce-13624682.amp It is not what we want Steve. It is what needs to happen. We wanted you to show a semblance of ability or bollocks to win games...you haven't. Get out. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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