DCJonah Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 1 hour ago, Flynnchin84 said: Misleading, the fact Bruce has been playing against the likes of Burton and Rotherham, it should be expected. And has one of the best squads in the league. Let's ignore all that though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 1 minute ago, sne said: Think it's safe to assume this is what we'll get under Steve Bruce. 40 League games in now and he still doesn't know what he want's, or at least how to achieve it. Rather than being able to fix the problems he just keeps signing new players and changing formations hoping to paper over the cracks and stumble over something that works. He's not working towards a goal, he's just trying to keep his head over water. We are wasting our time with him. Thing is he finally stumbled over something that worked well and then changed it - dreadful decision last night when the team had momentum to then start with 3 at the back was crazy 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted August 26, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted August 26, 2017 Awful yesterday. What was he thinking in the first half? Should be sacked. Terrible football manager. Sick of watching such stupid tactical decisions. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 2 hours ago, villan_007 said: Spin this.....Aston Villa the least amount of away wins in all 4 leagues over the past 5yrs. 25 away wins in 5 yrs. Blame bruce though. Spin this at the same time. Steve Bruce has the highest win ratio of any villa manger since John gregory. It's a funny old game. That does not wash I'm afraid. We were in the premier league with a vastly inferior team. We are now in the championship with players that the other clubs can only dream of. Back Bruce all the way if you wish and ignore what you actually see. I want Bruce to do well because that means that we will do well. It is his negativity that is killing us not some rubbish about how we were bad 5 years ago! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 29 minutes ago, Eastie said: Thing is he finally stumbled over something that worked well and then changed it - dreadful decision last night when the team had momentum to then start with 3 at the back was crazy It's quite astonishing actually. He stumbled on a winning formula and approach which if he stuck with, could have kept him in the job more securely as well as getting us where we needed to be, ie: promotion. But instead he uproots all of that and goes with something completely new because he was too scared to lose. It boggles the mind how a manager with such extensive experience could come up with that. I'm no manager or rocket scientist, but surely sticking with what got us 2 wins and 8 goals was the best idea? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted August 26, 2017 Moderator Share Posted August 26, 2017 21 minutes ago, PieFacE said: Awful yesterday. What was he thinking in the first half? Should be sacked. Terrible football manager. Sick of watching such stupid tactical decisions. It was exactly what I was expecting, that is the worst thing about it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Looking at win percentages and record over the last few years is the definition of false equivalence but I suspect those bringing it up know this. We arguably have the strongest team in the division yet continually set up like the under-dog, giving teams far too much respect in terms of how deep we sit and the players we commit forward. Starting with a 5 at the back park the bus mentality on the back of scoring 8 goals in 2 games with a squad you'd expect to be brimming in confidence sums him up completely. Mid-table obscurity if he stays. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunnski Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 I wasn't surprised to see him change the whole set up after we scored 8 goals in 2 games because he's an idiot. Why start with 3 centre backs? Like seriously? Just put the same team out that played Norwich except Hutton and take the game to the mighty Bristol city. He's a complete bottler and his over cautious approach cost us again last night. Get rid!! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lord Willard Posted August 26, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted August 26, 2017 (edited) Giving him to the end of September is madness to me. I've been very reserved on my thoughts on Bruce. After the Norwich and Wigan games, I thought, he finally gets us. We're the big dogs of the Championship, teams should sit back and be afraid to play us and if they decide to come out us, we'll out play them. We have any managers wet dream of the championship. Our back 4 has 3 premiership quality players. Bree will get there and RDL needs a season getting up to speed again. Either way they're > Hutton and Samba?!? Midfield - Whelan - one of stokes best midfielders for years, onomah is a star in the making, Hourihane top assists last season. Up front -> we have our very own Micheal Owen and Heskey strike force and yet he has no idea how to use either of them. We defend and sit way too deep. It was a joy to watch Bristol City press hard and so quickly all game, while we had defence and midfield 18-25 yards from our goal. Leaving our strikers so isolated. Bruce only knows how to manage small teams, with small mentalities. That's his niché. We are the Man United of this division, all the teams put that little bit more effort and fire when they play us and we need to put teams in their place. We give teams far too much respect. Time for him to go. September is too late. Edited August 26, 2017 by Lord Willard 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, penguin said: Looking at win percentages and record over the last few years is the definition of false equivalence but I suspect those bringing it up know this. We arguably have the strongest team in the division yet continually set up like the under-dog, giving teams far too much respect in terms of how deep we sit and the players we commit forward. Starting with a 5 at the back park the bus mentality on the back of scoring 8 goals in 2 games with a squad you'd expect to be brimming in confidence sums him up completely. Mid-table obscurity if he stays. It feels like we're playing Man City or Chelsea instead of ***** Reading and Bristol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 18 minutes ago, TrentVilla said: It was exactly what I was expecting, that is the worst thing about it. I don't rate him one bit but I never would have predicted what he chose to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave J Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 3 hours ago, AntrimBlack said: Why on earth would would we view a draw at Bristol City anything but points lost. One thing Bruce has achieved is to dampen down our expectations. Based on their decent start to the season and our poor start - all things considered I don't feel it's a terrible point? - however I must point out once more that in no way do I think Bruce is the man for the job and I'd have no qualms should he leave today. My post is not an endorsement of SB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 1 minute ago, Dave J said: Based on their decent start to the season and our poor start - all things considered I don't feel it's a terrible point? - however I must point out once more that in no way do I think Bruce is the man for the job and I'd have no qualms should he leave today. My post is not an endorsement of SB They have 1 point more than us. But as we are supposedly aiming for promotion beating teams like them is a must. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 We play like we just got promoted from League One. Sitting deep and grinding out hard earned points against the liked if Bristol City. ***** me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Sitting behind the team in the first half I could see how much that formation changed during just one 45 minute period. At different stages it was either a back three of Chester, Terry and Samba, A back four with Taylor going to left back and Chester at right back and at times it looked like it was a back four of Terry, Whelan, Samba and Chester. The players didn't have a clue where they were supposed to be or what they were doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 27 minutes ago, sexbelowsound said: Sitting behind the team in the first half I could see how much that formation changed during just one 45 minute period. At different stages it was either a back three of Chester, Terry and Samba, A back four with Taylor going to left back and Chester at right back and at times it looked like it was a back four of Terry, Whelan, Samba and Chester. The players didn't have a clue where they were supposed to be or what they were doing. It was embarrassing. I mean, I know the guy hasn't got a clue but I did have a chuckle to myself when Chester was playing at right back. The one position where we have an abundance of players, we play our best centre half. As others have said, most know he'd bottle it and change a formation that has scored 8 goals in 2 games, but nobody knew it would be that bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 All he had to do was play either Bree or De Laet at CB to avoid a situation like that. These are the tires of things manages get paid the big bucks for. Bruce manages like he's playing FIFA 03. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villabromsgrove Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 The first twenty five minutes against Bristol City dashed the confidence built by two high scoring wins. Bruce was totally responsible for that. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junxs Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 4 hours ago, skarroki said: 3 of those 5 RDM got were against the one of the worst teams in championship history. Hold up.. OK 3 of those points were against Rotherham, but Bristol City was one of those games - then you had 3 teams all in or around the play offs, Hudderfield, Sheffield W and Derby. I'd say thats a tougher run of fixtures than Bruce's first 5. Then you have consider Bruce has had far more time with the squad than RDM had, and RDMs team was still getting to know one another. yet they both had 5 points after 5 games. Bruce will not get in the top 10 let alone the play offs, best to change now - people were saying RDM was given too long so lets not make the same mistake again. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vreitti Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Noticed Davis was celebrating the "hard fought" point on Twitter. Not only has Bruce managed to completely dampen the expectations of the fans, he's also infected the same low level mentality to the team, which really is depressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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