BOF Posted July 7, 2017 Moderator Share Posted July 7, 2017 I've read your post 5 times now and I still don't know how you're getting that from what TRO posted. I'll try a 6th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 Football eh ? Bloody 'ell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 9 hours ago, TRO said: I see him as a practical manager. i could not see how we was going to stop leaking goals last season, it was worrying.....He did it, albeit there was a trade off in terms of attacking play, but for me thst is phase 2, like now. We leaked virtually the same number of goals per game under Bruce as RDM. He didn't make us more solid, he just made us negative. As for making us hard to beat, he seemed to do that initially but then we went on that awful loosing streak. That was my main concern last season the results seemed to be totally random while the performances were consistently poor. Hopefully we will start afresh in August gain some momentum and never look back. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn1982 Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 7 minutes ago, DaveAV1 said: We leaked virtually the same number of goals per game under Bruce as RDM. He didn't make us more solid, he just made us negative. As for making us hard to beat, he seemed to do that initially but then we went on that awful loosing streak. That was my main concern last season the results seemed to be totally random while the performances were consistently poor. Hopefully we will start afresh in August gain some momentum and never look back. He just made us stop leaking late goals. Something that would've happened anyway. Bruce has got a big couple of months coming up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, Grasshopper said: oh dear Tro So now that the money has been blown, there is the ready made excuse "Bruce didnt get the players he wanted because he & RDM blew it all on shite" Tro, you've dug your hole soooooo deep that you cant get out GH I have genuinely no idea what your going on about.....The players i am referring to is this window......if he gets the ones he wants and Terry is a whopper, we will be ok. last season we was incomplete. what part of that do you not understand? Edited July 7, 2017 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 5 hours ago, BOF said: I've read your post 5 times now and I still don't know how you're getting that from what TRO posted. I'll try a 6th. Thanks BOF I am happy for folk to disagree with me......but its as if they have not read my responses and just write the same questions over and over again. They don't even acknowledge my points and then disagree. its just Bruce is shite and cost us promotion over and over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 55 minutes ago, dn1982 said: He just made us stop leaking late goals. Something that would've happened anyway. Bruce has got a big couple of months coming up. would it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 28 minutes ago, TRO said: Thanks BOF I am happy for folk to disagree with me......but its as if they have not read my responses and just write the same questions over and over again. They don't even acknowledge my points and then disagree. its just Bruce is shite and cost us promotion over and over again. Aren't you doing what you're not happy about here? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 53 minutes ago, TRO said: its just Bruce is shite and cost us promotion over and over again. You've changed your tune!!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junxs Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 12 hours ago, TRO said: i see Jedinak and Whelan playing as the 2 DM's.......Then the choice of 4 wreaking havoc. My main worry of signing Whelan is exactly that, as if we weren't defensive enough last season, Bruce will end up playing 2 DMs! Even more negative football than last year and you're actually advocating it. I'm sure in Bruces mind too he thinks just the 4 players would be enough to "wreak havoc" whilst everyone else sits in our own half. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AshVilla Posted July 7, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted July 7, 2017 Playing 2 DM's really would be shocking. I thought we showed teams far to much respect last season as it is. Let the players off the leash and attack. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 Playing 2 dm's would be ridiculous It would also mean hourihane and Lansbury wouldn't feature as much, which again would be ridiculous I'm not sure even Bruce is that defensive so can't see it being the regular set up thankfully. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn1982 Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 8 hours ago, TRO said: would it? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn1982 Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 7 hours ago, AshVilla said: Playing 2 DM's really would be shocking. I thought we showed teams far to much respect last season as it is. Let the players off the leash and attack. By most accounts Whelan isn't a DM like a Jedinak so hopefully he can play one or other depending on the game. Whelan in a 2 Jedi in a 3. I don't want to see both in this league. It's no where near as good as its made out but you have to attack all the time. We should try out scoring teams for a change. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TrentVilla Posted July 8, 2017 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted July 8, 2017 9 hours ago, TRO said: its just Bruce is shite and cost us promotion over and over again. I've no issue with criticism of Bruce, no issue with those who want him replaced. But to say he cost us promotion, given where we were when he arrived is frankly ridiculous. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 (edited) 8 hours ago, DCJonah said: Playing 2 dm's would be ridiculous It would also mean hourihane and Lansbury wouldn't feature as much, which again would be ridiculous I'm not sure even Bruce is that defensive so can't see it being the regular set up thankfully. To be honest, I think if it is done the right way it can be very effective depending on tactics. Two DM's could effectively mean 4 forwards if they are clicking. Potent attacking threat solid midfield and solid defence. 3-4-3/5-3-2/3-5-2/4-2-1-3 etc. Edited July 8, 2017 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decamoto Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 1 hour ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: To be honest, I think if it is done the right way it can be very effective depending on tactics. Two DM's could effectively mean 4 forwards if they are clicking. Potent attacking threat solid midfield and solid defence. 3-4-3/5-3-2/3-5-2/4-2-1-3 etc. While I agree with your point, I think that regardless how you sell the idea of 2 DMs in the 1 team in the championship to fans, people won't be happy. Youre fighting a losing battle from the start 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 Interesting interview from the training camp - i'm not a huge fan but he speaks well and a lot of sense. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condimentalist Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 He speaks a lot of sense but I'd like to see a bit more intensity from him. He's a bit relaxed for my liking. 'I'll do my utmost to get us promoted this year', 'we need to be in and around the top of the league', 'we need time'. I'd like to hear him say that our aim is no more and no less than to win this competition. With the players we have, that's what we should be doing. There can't be any hiding places now for him or for anyone else in this squad. Hopefully Terry and some of the others will bring that winning mentality. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted July 8, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted July 8, 2017 6 minutes ago, PatrickCousens said: He speaks a lot of sense but I'd like to see a bit more intensity from him. He's a bit relaxed for my liking. 'I'll do my utmost to get us promoted this year', 'we need to be in and around the top of the league', 'we need time'. I'd like to hear him say that our aim is no more and no less than to win this competition. With the players we have, that's what we should be doing. There can't be any hiding places now for him or for anyone else in this squad. Hopefully Terry and some of the others will bring that winning mentality. He is calm, but that's his interview style, he's a footballer that has turned in to a manager not a PR man. I like his honesty, and in the dugout he's pretty intense so that's where it matters to me. In short, I like both Steve Bruce the man, and Steve Bruce the manager. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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