TRO Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 16 hours ago, rodders0223 said: Better hope he fails because no doubt he will be lining up his next pop at us fans. I dread him being proven 'right' I don't think that will happen at all....it was only a "section" anyway, he referred to. Steve Bruce was always complementary towards the fans in general....I would suspect only Sheff Wed will be harbouring his thoughts....like Dean Smith is in our thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, Shropshire Lad said: Professional courtesy. The minimum I would expect to be honest. He may well think highly of Bruce, but I doubt Smith would take the opportunity to slate him, doesn’t seem that sort of character. Who was the last manager we had who openly criticised the previous manager? True....but why say anything at all....and he did. When folk usually have a hidden agenda they say nothing....but Dean said Something, He didn't have to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDuck Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 This thread man, jesus. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 17 hours ago, MrDuck said: This thread man, jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 On 17/02/2019 at 13:31, TRO said: True....but why say anything at all....and he did. When folk usually have a hidden agenda they say nothing....but Dean said Something, He didn't have to. Don’t forget Bruce has all his pals in the media, and other managers, and ex players. They all hate him but lie and say nice things about. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Genie said: Don’t forget Bruce has all his pals in the media, and other managers, and ex players. They all hate him but lie and say nice things about. ITK here folks. Just glad we have such expert analysis on hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 On 17/02/2019 at 14:31, TRO said: True....but why say anything at all....and he did. When folk usually have a hidden agenda they say nothing....but Dean said Something, He didn't have to. He was asked a question I imagine? and rather than saying "no comment" which would have raised even more questions he just said something generic like he's a good man manager. something that if you're inclined to that thinking might be seen as an underhand way of saying that Bruce doesn't do tactics Doubt Smith has any strong feelings about Bruce either way. As a Villa fan he might have been a bit pissed we missed promotion thou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 This thread is more popular than the **** beatles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave J Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 7 hours ago, bannedfromHandV said: ITK here folks. Just glad we have such expert analysis on hand. Just out of genuine interest if you will- exactly what did Bruce do for us that appears to propel you to defend his corner as often as you do? As I say not a wind up at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 3 hours ago, Dave J said: Just out of genuine interest if you will- exactly what did Bruce do for us that appears to propel you to defend his corner as often as you do? As I say not a wind up at all Dave......it might be to do with, he thinks the criticism of him at times is unfair. I guess the more the criticism is made in the form it is......the more the defensive arguments are raised......has it dawned on you, that on this subject, he doesn,t agree with some of your criticisms of him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 3 hours ago, Dave J said: Just out of genuine interest if you will- exactly what did Bruce do for us that appears to propel you to defend his corner as often as you do? As I say not a wind up at all 24 wins was nifty.......i'd take that now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 3 hours ago, Dave J said: Just out of genuine interest if you will- exactly what did Bruce do for us that appears to propel you to defend his corner as often as you do? As I say not a wind up at all Dave, I have no particular love for Steve Bruce, however. I am able to recognise facts and whilst yes, we ultimately failed to hit the number one target, we still had a pretty good season with far more highs than lows. The atmosphere in VP at the end of the second leg vs Boro was superb, best it's been for a long long time. We had a good team that he put together, we scored lots of goals and won lots of games. His derby record was pretty good. How far back and how many Managers ago was the last season we could say that? We were dire before Bruce and we're dire after Bruce, unless I'm missing something I fail to see how he's the cause of our woes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted February 20, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted February 20, 2019 (edited) Personally I’m not so sure last season had far more genuine highs than genuine lows. The highlights - Connor’s hat trick and Green’s goal v Norwich Small heath derby day win Sheff Utd smash and grab win Bristol City 5-0 (Those for me were the highlights of the 7 game winning run.) Wolves 4-1 Jack’s winner against Cardiff The lowlights - One win in seven opening games Played off the park by the dingles Dismal December QPR at home, followed by a mini dismal run Play off final Yes I’m sure you could make a case for a couple more highlights, Sheffield Wednesday away was fun (although that particular result is balanced out with the home game). However my overall memory/feeling of last season was that the positives weren’t as positive as the negatives were negative. Besides, I don’t only look at the 2017/18 season when considering Bruce’s tenure. His first six or seven months in charge (a mixed bag) and the first two months of this season (poor) are included too. Edited February 20, 2019 by Shropshire Lad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Last season was just incredibly frustrating because everytime we had done all the hard work and we **** it up against dross. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 20, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted February 20, 2019 (edited) Best season we've had for around a decade. Ultimately failed, and Bruce has a lot to answer for given how he left the squad this season. But reading this thread you'd think we'd finished 18th last season. I'd kill for another season like last season given how shit we are right now. Hopefully Smith can build something that means we get another season like last season (preferably succeeding on that extra step!) and is more sustainable. Edited February 20, 2019 by Stevo985 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 That season may be the only thing saving us from having the worst record out of all 92 clubs from 2012 onwards. I know we had that distinction at least mid way through our first Championship season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave J Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 6 hours ago, Stevo985 said: Best season we've had for around a decade. Ultimately failed, and Bruce has a lot to answer for given how he left the squad this season. But reading this thread you'd think we'd finished 18th last season. I'd kill for another season like last season given how shit we are right now. Hopefully Smith can build something that means we get another season like last season (preferably succeeding on that extra step!) and is more sustainable. Best season for a decade ? Yes in a lower standard of football - you do know Bruce spent a fortune and failed in his objective don't you? Crikey words fail me - it was an horrendous season for me - as someone pointed out - the negatives overshadow the positives. Most of us expected promotion last year - try squaring that circle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave J Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 19 hours ago, TRO said: Dave......it might be to do with, he thinks the criticism of him at times is unfair. I guess the more the criticism is made in the form it is......the more the defensive arguments are raised......has it dawned on you, that on this subject, he doesn,t agree with some of your criticisms of him? A little bizarre TRO - I only asked what propelled BFHV to defend Bruce as often as he does ? Clearly it is his right to post as much in defence of Bruce as he so wishes - I never criticised Bruce in this post at all - with all due respect TRO I could level the same towards you when it comes to Bruce - purely conjecture but I wonder if offered would you take him back ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 19 hours ago, bannedfromHandV said: Dave, I have no particular love for Steve Bruce, however. I am able to recognise facts and whilst yes, we ultimately failed to hit the number one target, we still had a pretty good season with far more highs than lows. The atmosphere in VP at the end of the second leg vs Boro was superb, best it's been for a long long time. We had a good team that he put together, we scored lots of goals and won lots of games. His derby record was pretty good. How far back and how many Managers ago was the last season we could say that? We were dire before Bruce and we're dire after Bruce, unless I'm missing something I fail to see how he's the cause of our woes. Not all but a large chunk. And it doesn't surprise me that you have missed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 7 hours ago, Stevo985 said: Best season we've had for around a decade. Ultimately failed, and Bruce has a lot to answer for given how he left the squad this season. But reading this thread you'd think we'd finished 18th last season. I'd kill for another season like last season given how shit we are right now. Hopefully Smith can build something that means we get another season like last season (preferably succeeding on that extra step!) and is more sustainable. It was enjoyable for most of the season. But at what cost? Now not all his fault, the short term thinking was heavily supported by Dr Fraud. One of my main concerns with Bruce was the long term issue if he failed and we are now seeing that come to fruition. An enjoyable season that ultimately was a failure has now caused the club to hit the reset button. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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