Popular Post JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted September 6, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 6, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Stevo985 said: 100% Tragically I think it's removed some people's ability to enjoy our football matches. Not really this season as it hasn't been very good at all yet this season. But last season I honestly think some people didn't enjoy a lot of our games because of their dislike of Bruce. It's quite sad really as we could genuinely go years without a season as good as last season. I hope we don't, but it's about 10 years since we had one as good before that! I genuinely could never picture any Villa fan saying, "Ohhh we play some great football and keep winning but I just can't stand Bruce". Most would say "Fair play, the bugger got it right tonight", although he would almost certainly then come out with things like "Hopefully shut one or two up", "not had millions to spend", "These lads have only been here 20 minutes" etc basically digs at the fans so he does not help his case in the scenario you create. Football fans enjoy good football, especially when the team they love is playing and winning with it. This makes zero sense to me. I wouldn't care less if Petre Andre was the manager if that were the case. You might have a more valid argument if you were pointing to people refusing to get carried away after a blistering performance as they know good performances are simply the swingback of the leg before the impending kick in the nads when we get beat by QPR for example. Edited September 6, 2018 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 The thing I have never quite understood about Bruce out is.....it seems like it is championed at any cost. This notion that we cannot get a worse manager is unfounded. Until I have a good idea of who is being proposed to replace him....I fail to get encouraged. We more than most fans have had first hand realisation of worse managers, it is a real possibility. I would hazard a guess the owners think that too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 13 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: I genuinely could never picture any Villa fan saying, "Ohhh we play some great football and keep winning but I just can't stand Bruce". Most would say "Fair play, the bugger got it right tonight", although he would almost certainly then come out with things like "Hopefully shut one or two up", "not had millions to spend", "These lads have only been here 20 minutes" etc basically digs at the fans so he does not help his case in the scenario you create. Football fans enjoy good football, especially when the team they love is playing and winning with it. This makes zero sense to me. I wouldn't care less if Petre Andre was the manager if that were the case. You might have a more valid argument if you were pointing to people refusing to get carried away after a blistering performance as they know good performances are simply the swingback of the leg before the impending kick in the nads when we get beat by QPR for example. Now there's a name that hasn't been mentioned....That's a "mysterious" choice. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 13 minutes ago, TRO said: Now there's a name that hasn't been mentioned....That's a "mysterious" choice. Honestly have no clue how or why his name popped into my head mate.lol It's late here, need to go to bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 1 hour ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: I genuinely could never picture any Villa fan saying, "Ohhh we play some great football and keep winning but I just can't stand Bruce". Most would say "Fair play, the bugger got it right tonight", although he would almost certainly then come out with things like "Hopefully shut one or two up", "not had millions to spend", "These lads have only been here 20 minutes" etc basically digs at the fans so he does not help his case in the scenario you create. Football fans enjoy good football, especially when the team they love is playing and winning with it. This makes zero sense to me. I wouldn't care less if Petre Andre was the manager if that were the case. You might have a more valid argument if you were pointing to people refusing to get carried away after a blistering performance as they know good performances are simply the swingback of the leg before the impending kick in the nads when we get beat by QPR for example. For me, it's always been, seems a nice enough chap that Bruce, but the blend of football he's serving up, is, I'm afraid to say, not the Mae West, and that's putting it nicely. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 1 hour ago, TRO said: Now there's a name that hasn't been mentioned....That's a "mysterious" choice. Tro, your pun jokes are like a Villa, throw - in, cringe inducing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 Stepping aside from all the negatives, hysteria and the other bumflufferies, I have a feeling Bruce has the next four games to save our season and quite possibly his job! We have four games remaining this month and a haul of 10-12pts are needed from these games if we are to even think about mounting a challenge of promotion this season. Going into these games we have only collected 9pts from what should have easily been 16-18pts so far this season (only 3 pts from the last 4 games) and given the opposition of those games and their league position at the time should see us with more points than what we currently have. It will be interesting to see what methods and changes Bruce introduces - if any, over these next 4 games* in a bid to save his Job. Having already made one or two unpopular descisions in the dressing room this season he's now got large segments of the away fans turning on him, if not all. Not many managers come back from this. Bruce has done quite well in the transfer window with the signings of Mcginn, El Ghazi and Tuanzebe and the yet to feature Bolasie & Abraham, and yet we are still left with a shambolic and bare defence. People say he needs time to bed all these players in etc. With the tide starting to turn against Bruce, the fact is the time is already against him and these next few games are going to be so crucial and possibly the biggest in his managerial career. Will he do it? I don't think he will. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 (edited) 19 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: I genuinely could never picture any Villa fan saying, "Ohhh we play some great football and keep winning but I just can't stand Bruce". Most would say "Fair play, the bugger got it right tonight", although he would almost certainly then come out with things like "Hopefully shut one or two up", "not had millions to spend", "These lads have only been here 20 minutes" etc basically digs at the fans so he does not help his case in the scenario you create. Football fans enjoy good football, especially when the team they love is playing and winning with it. This makes zero sense to me. I wouldn't care less if Petre Andre was the manager if that were the case. You might have a more valid argument if you were pointing to people refusing to get carried away after a blistering performance as they know good performances are simply the swingback of the leg before the impending kick in the nads when we get beat by QPR for example. That's very true, winning football is all that matters to most. When we lose, however, there is nothing to soothe the pain. No, well at least we're playing some decent football or, you can't fault the player's, they gave it their all. It feels like even the atmosphere around the club as soured and here we are, cap in hand, begging for the service of a 37 yr, old, defender. Just doesn't feel right to me. Edited September 7, 2018 by sheepyvillian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macandally Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 Seems to me like some people have memory loss over the international break. You can count the number of times we have played flowing, attacking (dare I say winning) football under Bruce on one hand. We are a barely functional side grinding out results. Some seem to think we should accept this whereas some of us understand that we are not Wigan or the noses and we should rightfully expect better. As long as Bruce is here. More damage is being done. Let’s not kid ourselves, the new owners help us dodge a Bruce/Xia inflicted bullet, you may not be so accepting when lightening strikes again at the end of the season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 3 hours ago, sheepyvillian said: Tro, your pun jokes are like a Villa, throw - in, cringe inducing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 3 hours ago, AvfcRigo82 said: Stepping aside from all the negatives, hysteria and the other bumflufferies, I have a feeling Bruce has the next four games to save our season and quite possibly his job! We have four games remaining this month and a haul of 10-12pts are needed from these games if we are to even think about mounting a challenge of promotion this season. Going into these games we have only collected 9pts from what should have easily been 16-18pts so far this season (only 3 pts from the last 4 games) and given the opposition of those games and their league position at the time should see us with more points than what we currently have. It will be interesting to see what methods and changes Bruce introduces - if any, over these next 4 games* in a bid to save his Job. Having already made one or two unpopular descisions in the dressing room this season he's now got large segments of the away fans turning on him, if not all. Not many managers come back from this. Bruce has done quite well in the transfer window with the signings of Mcginn, El Ghazi and Tuanzebe and the yet to feature Bolasie & Abraham, and yet we are still left with a shambolic and bare defence. People say he needs time to bed all these players in etc. With the tide starting to turn against Bruce, the fact is the time is already against him and these next few games are going to be so crucial and possibly the biggest in his managerial career. Will he do it? I don't think he will. I agree he has 4 games to save his job but not 4 games to save our season. This team is very capable of winning 10-15 games in a row, currently not likely but fresh manager impetus, talented squad, I think the season is long we we are going to be there or there abouts regardless of who is in charge.! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan-scott Posted September 7, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted September 7, 2018 5 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Honestly have no clue how or why his name popped into my head mate.lol It's late here, need to go to bed. This thread is insania, it has strange effects on people! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 (edited) I am perfectly comfortable saying Bruce has assembled a good team, maybe twice and that he is a good bloke who is always trying to win games. But playing style counts, it always will for a club like us. We want to see good football. Direct wing play can be great but its been clear now for sometime that Steve Bruce may have reached a bit of a dead end tactically and the fact is as we have found out to our cost, momentum matters in this league. The top teams keep winning and the bottom teams keep losing. We have spluttered out of the gate, we cannot afford to let him have more time. So I am also perfectly comfortable thanking Steve for his service and moving on to a new manager, it is to important for our season, If Steve Bruce played for himself he would drop him. We need to do the same. Its not personal, we just need to go up and this squad (thanks Steve) is capable of it. Edited September 7, 2018 by ciggiesnbeer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 6 hours ago, TRO said: Now there's a name that hasn't been mentioned....That's a "mysterious" choice. Has he done his badges? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 59 minutes ago, ciggiesnbeer said: But playing style counts, it always will for a club like us We haven't had an attractive playing style for over 20 years, more or less. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 22 minutes ago, DaveAV1 said: Has he done his badges? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted September 7, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted September 7, 2018 8 hours ago, AvfcRigo82 said: What your saying is, people's abilities to enjoy watching our football matches have been removed but not yet this season as we have been shit, but despite that we don't enjoy a lot of our games because of dislike for Bruce anyway? Maybe Bruce would be liked if our games would be enjoyable to watch, if we didn't play shit under his management, if he cut the bullshit and excuses and handled players better. It could be agreed that Bruce has destroyed any fans even wanting to watch us due to the shit he is serving up this season on and off the pitch - a bit like the majority of last season? But, I guess it's easier to blame the "Bruxiteers" and their inabilities instead huh?. **** me. You are amazing at missing the point and making up your own argument all together. Have a **** day off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted September 7, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted September 7, 2018 7 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: I genuinely could never picture any Villa fan saying, "Ohhh we play some great football and keep winning but I just can't stand Bruce". Most would say "Fair play, the bugger got it right tonight", although he would almost certainly then come out with things like "Hopefully shut one or two up", "not had millions to spend", "These lads have only been here 20 minutes" etc basically digs at the fans so he does not help his case in the scenario you create. Great if you believe that. I don't. I think it was clear last season that there were posters here who praised victories through gritted teeth. Even if we won a game well they'd be picking faults because they couldn't bear to give Bruce credit. And it was clear that some posters reveled in us losing because it made them right about Bruce. You're not allowed to say that. People will reply to this with faux outrage at the very suggestion that that could be the case. But we all know it's true. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 17 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: **** me. You are amazing at missing the point and making up your own argument all together. Have a **** day off. If you don't like it, don't read it or better still, ignore it perhaps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 48 minutes ago, lexicon said: We haven't had an attractive playing style for over 20 years, more or less. Bout time then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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