bobzy Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, Dick said: He has made mistakes two games in a row. Fans are entitled to question that, but.Bruce does not like to be questioned, we can only praise him. I wish my life was that easy that can make mistakes and expect only to be praised. There's a world of difference between fans having a dig at the manager and fans criticising decisions. I think you know that really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave J Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, bobzy said: I have no idea what the **** you're on about here. If fans are having a pop at him after that run of form, he's fully entitled to have a pop back. He's actually not - he needs to realise it's our club not his, he is here for the short term and should feel grateful everyday he is in charge of our club. He is a lucky man to have this gig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, Kiwivillan said: Back to bash losses to QPR and Bolton. Fans deserve a pop. Just utterly ridiculous - but our fan base is getting like that tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Dave J said: He's actually not - he needs to realise it's our club not his, he is here for the short term and should feel grateful everyday he is in charge of our club. He is a lucky man to have this gig I'm pretty sure he's said as much, has he not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vreitti Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Whatever happens in regard to promotion, I seriously hope we get rid of Bruce at the end of the season. I'm just so sick and tired of his dreadful football, and utterly clueless decisions. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave J Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, bobzy said: There's a world of difference between fans having a dig at the manager and fans criticising decisions. I think you know that really. This is Aston Villa - if you can't stand the heat - I'm afraid you keep out of the kitchen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave J Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, bobzy said: I'm pretty sure he's said as much, has he not? Fair play to the guy if so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, bobzy said: There's a world of difference between fans having a dig at the manager and fans criticising decisions. I think you know that really. It seems to be criticism of the decisions and results. I haven't seen many personal digs towards him recently. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted March 17, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted March 17, 2018 He’ll be well within his right to defend himself. Professionally, he’s had an very good 2018 so far (8/10 I’d say), under incredibly difficult personal circumstances. He still has my backing. But he’s set himself up for some stick for playing his part in the last two performances especially with all his talk of the league only counting when the bloody daffodils come out and “tickly bits” etc. A potentially great week has turned into one of the worst weeks of the season. I’m glad we’ve got an international break now, so they can sort it out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeyb Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, bobzy said: Just utterly ridiculous - but our fan base is getting like that tbh. Do you think the manager had a faultless game tonight? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave J Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 A potentially great week has turned into one of the worst weeks of the season. I’m glad we’ve got an international break now, so they can sort it out. And here in lies the problem - who genuinely feels Bruce is the man to do this ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holteend1982 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, Dave J said: He's actually not - he needs to realise it's our club not his, he is here for the short term and should feel grateful everyday he is in charge of our club. He is a lucky man to have this gig I disagree, this job is an extremely tough one. keeping on top of FFP whilst having players like richards and gabby draining over 100k a week between them, on the back of 6 seasons of pure crap. Massive expectations which is usually hard enough on it's own but we also have one of the most fickle fan bases in the country which can make villa park toxic at times. it's the biggest club hes been out but probably his hardest job hes had so no way should he feel grateful and lucky everyday to be here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted March 17, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, Dave J said: A potentially great week has turned into one of the worst weeks of the season. I’m glad we’ve got an international break now, so they can sort it out. And here in lies the problem - who genuinely feels Bruce is the man to do this ? Couldn’t have said that first bit better myself He’s not going to get sacked, so he HAS to be the man to do it. I think he can do it, I just don’t know if he will. We are capable of beating any other team in this division, we have to get behind them and hope that this past week is the anomaly and those 7 wins on the trot are closer to how we’ll be at the crunch point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabby Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 12 minutes ago, holteend1982 said: I disagree, this job is an extremely tough one. keeping on top of FFP whilst having players like richards and gabby draining over 100k a week between them, on the back of 6 seasons of pure crap. Massive expectations which is usually hard enough on it's own but we also have one of the most fickle fan bases in the country which can make villa park toxic at times. it's the biggest club hes been out but probably his hardest job hes had so no way should he feel grateful and lucky everyday to be here. Tough would be managing Bolton with a transfer embargo and a 5k a week wage limit . Bruce has had FFP restraints but this was after he himself when on shopping spree last January and he has had enough funds to bring in Terry and loan 4 Premier league club players .The bare minimum required with what he has had at this disposal is top 6 and he looks like he might just about do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 (edited) He has blown it as far as I'm concerned, he screwed up big time for the QPR game and he admits that himself, today was a shocking display and he well and truly lost the plot in the second half, four forwards, no one to put the ball into the box, embarrassing. I'd be amazed if he gets us up through the playoffs. Automatic promotion is now off the table. Edited March 17, 2018 by Dr_Pangloss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave J Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 24 minutes ago, holteend1982 said: I disagree, this job is an extremely tough one. keeping on top of FFP whilst having players like richards and gabby draining over 100k a week between them, on the back of 6 seasons of pure crap. Massive expectations which is usually hard enough on it's own but we also have one of the most fickle fan bases in the country which can make villa park toxic at times. it's the biggest club hes been out but probably his hardest job hes had so no way should he feel grateful and lucky everyday to be here. You make some valid points and I agree with some of them - however a man with so few honours to his name after 20 years + as a manager - should in my view jump out of bed every day and do a little dance around his bedroom - and thank his lucky stars he got lucky 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 35 minutes ago, mykeyb said: Do you think the manager had a faultless game tonight? Hell no - have I said that he did? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Albert Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Hes got away with good team spirit and individual brilliance this season. We havent had a style of play since he arrived, what sought of manager with any tactical know how would have made them changes today it was utterly baffling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeyb Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, bobzy said: Hell no - have I said that he did? No but you are suggesting fans are out of order for questioning the manager because of his record since christmas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, mykeyb said: No but you are suggesting fans are out of order for questioning the manager because of his record since christmas Not out of order, but it's pretty ridiculous. Even with these 2 losses, we've picked up 31 points out of a possible 42. That's great form. After beating Wolves, we were challenging for automatic promotion... and now, suddenly, Bruce is utter turd and we're not going up. Crazy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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