Popular Post Grasshopper Posted April 9, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted April 9, 2017 He came got us a few points didnt build on it made errors when we had no room for them went on a disgracefull run board didnt sack him started a run that needed to continue till the end of the season to have a chance at reaching the playoffs. drew against Burton to blow all hopes in the process managed very few minutes of good/dominant/effective football the rest being dire football that allowed us to be "outplayed by numerous teams" either below us in the league or have been outspent by us relied on "defending an mass" and a talent who scores from little or no approach play. So hands up all who want him in charge for next seasons attempt out of this league? Bruce Out 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 I am not Bruce biggest fan but about 6 weeks ago I saw this as a relegation 6 pointer. Credit where its due we are miles away from a relegation battle at the moment 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post New_Jersey_Villa Posted April 9, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted April 9, 2017 To start with, people calling for Bruce's head at this point are Fing mental. I'll take this form every 10 games for the rest of my days. Defensively we are in good shape, but I agree the attacking play still needs work. For months in pretty much every post match interview, Bruce has been saying that we are relying on Kodjia too much and we need to do much better with the ball to retain possession. On the plus side he can obviously see what the problem is, the slight concern is that nothing seems to be changing in this respect. Personally I'd put this more on the players than the manager though, as it's unlikely his team talk contained the phrases "Make sure u can't pass for shit" or "Show a complete lack of composure in front of goal". My main tactical criticism is that we need to do something different when Hogan is up front with no Kodjia. It's difficult to tell if it's player ineptitude or tactical failings, but whatever we are doing right now isn't working. The hoof and hope needs to go when the ball doesn't stick to your target man. (Hogan = none sticky target man) 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vreitti Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 20 hours ago, Stevo985 said: We need to start assessing managers by what they can do next, not what they've done for us in the past. So you're saying "Bruce out" then!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vreitti Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 9 hours ago, TRO said: There is also the Jedinak factor......we have won very few games without him. And let's not forget the Bacuna factor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan_007 Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 (edited) Holls holla Edited April 9, 2017 by villan_007 Delete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 Actually unbelievable there's fans calling for Bruce out. He doesn't have a clue, he's a chancer, lmfao! Factually he is the complete opposite of such statements. Whats even the point in asking to call for his head, the people at the top of this club want promotion more then any of us without a doubt, but thankfully they are also smart and see the bigger picture. I'm excited to see who Bruce brings in over the summer if January's signings are anything to go by we should be bringing in some real quality additions into a more settled team, a team that now also fights for eachother, when did we last have that!? Will the football improve next season? Probably, do I care, not really, as long as we are winning. Will we be challenging at all next season? Absolutely, failure won't be tolerated by the bosses next season, hence summer transfers are going to be interesting. Save your Bruce out posts and negativity and get behind the team and what's been a monumental task this season in building a new squad with a new hierarchy, from top to bottom, we all wanted automatic promotion, but in hindsight, our squad and set up was dire when we started this campaign and realistically we should've all known we were never going to be anywhere near the top 2, Ian Holloway called it correctly at the time when he said 16th, he understood just how shit we were and how hard it was going to be to turn it around, so credit to Bruce, he's doing a pretty fantastic job. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post vreitti Posted April 9, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted April 9, 2017 Is it really too much to ask to get better team performances, yet still having a good shout at promotion? Usually things like this go hand in hand. Bruce has shown he can get results. He hasn't however shown us much else, and he's certainly been backed considerably. He's had about 6 months now, and without Kodjia we'd still be in relegation. Sure, we'll most likely improve in the summer, because more money will be spent. However, I do not believe the performances will ever improve all that much under Bruce. He might still get us promoted next year. Then again so would probably a lot of other managers as well, given the resources at disposal. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 (edited) I think the vast majority of us would put results over performance. However never mind the aesthetics, my concern is that we don't look in control. Yes we are undoubtedly defending very well, but it seems to be very back to the wall. If we were defending 10 or 15 yards further up the pitch, then I would say that's comfortable. We would also not be leaving the striker(s) so isolated and giving the opposition more to think about than just continually attacking us. Defending so deep means that we are always so vulnerable to a mistake being punished with a goal and with us not scoring many, then that's a problem. If Norwich had been wearing the same goal scoring boots as they did yesterday, then we may have been having this discussion a week ago. Edited April 9, 2017 by DaveAV1 Double negative 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 1 hour ago, vreitti said: And let's not forget the Bacuna factor! If only we had a player called Max...... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 34 minutes ago, vreitti said: Is it really too much to ask to get better team performances, yet still having a good shout at promotion? Usually things like this go hand in hand. Bruce has shown he can get results. He hasn't however shown us much else, and he's certainly been backed considerably. He's had about 6 months now, and without Kodjia we'd still be in relegation. Sure, we'll most likely improve in the summer, because more money will be spent. However, I do not believe the performances will ever improve all that much under Bruce. He might still get us promoted next year. Then again so would probably a lot of other managers as well, given the resources at disposal. Not when you're trying to get into the playoffs from 18th halfway through the season. We've tried to do it by hook or crook. At the end of the day, results are all that really matter. Bruce will know, as he's said numerous times, that we need to be able to play more convincingly and not give the ball away so cheaply if we want to maintain these results over a season. Your last couple of sentences say it all. There's an equal chance of us being promoted under Bruce as any other manager - so why on earth would we have yet ANOTHER upheaval of staff, players, training methods, period of instability and everything else that goes with the managerial merry go round. Because our wins haven't been pretty enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjvilla Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 10 hours ago, mykeyb said: And the first goal we concede means we drop points, Norwich put 7 past the 3rd placed team an we get a dull draw against the minnows in the bottom 6 and still people think Bruce will get us promotion. As I said the other night we don't score enough goals under Bruce to get promotion........Not a chance in hell The same Norwich we beat just last weekend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted April 9, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted April 9, 2017 2 hours ago, vreitti said: So you're saying "Bruce out" then!? How did you come to that conclusion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted April 9, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted April 9, 2017 7 hours ago, Grasshopper said: He came got us a few points didnt build on it made errors when we had no room for them went on a disgracefull run board didnt sack him started a run that needed to continue till the end of the season to have a chance at reaching the playoffs. drew against Burton to blow all hopes in the process managed very few minutes of good/dominant/effective football the rest being dire football that allowed us to be "outplayed by numerous teams" either below us in the league or have been outspent by us relied on "defending an mass" and a talent who scores from little or no approach play. So hands up all who want him in charge for next seasons attempt out of this league? Bruce Out My hand is up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted April 9, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted April 9, 2017 8 minutes ago, Villan_of_oz said: My hand is up. And me. Emphatically. Sacking him now would be insanity. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Grasshopper Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 Keeping him is insanity However, my opinion carries no creedence whatsoever as I have no proof either way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted April 9, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted April 9, 2017 20 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: And me. Emphatically. Sacking him now would be insanity. yep mine too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 I think he's been fortunate the previous management team bought Kodjia Without him we'd be where Blues are now. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vreitti Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 33 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: How did you come to that conclusion? Tried to be funny. Obviously I know your stance. I keep going back and forth myself, one week to another. If I read a sensible post regarding stability, progress, etc. l'm inclined to continue with him. On the other hand, a well motivated more critical viewpoint, just as easily gets me thinking we'd be better off with someone else at the helm. Today I'm thinking stability is more important. But my god I wanna see us playing better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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