HanoiVillan Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 6 hours ago, Michael118 said: 1. Hiddink 2. Bielsa 3. Allardyce 4. Flores 6 hours ago, villa89 said: So Allardyce then? None of the rest of those candidates would consider us. 6 hours ago, Tommo_b said: Guess it depends on how much cash they are offered. I think we know Allardyce will do anything for cash at this point As I said, it's just not going to happen though. The rest of that list would require spending silly amounts of money even if they were interested, which they wouldn't be. We don't actually have infinite amounts of money. We're also in 17th or 18th place in the table, getting promoted this season is really not very likely. Spending a f-ton of money on a bling manager in the hope that they'll get promotion when it's already a fading hope is straight from the Peter Ridsdale school of football club ownership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted September 28, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted September 28, 2016 Can we close this thread until there is at least a hint that he might be in trouble from the board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastleBromVilla Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 3 hours ago, mattyvilla said: Dont dispute that , the worry is what happens when things arent going so well? Who gives a shit if he played and managed the crap down the road, he's Villa and the short sighted amoungst us would do well to remember. Its a risk, he's not had a job with the pressure he'll have with us, but he's done really well upto now and he'd be my choice, good young manager. Get him before Bournemouth go knocking to replace Howe when he links up with the national side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Reacho Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 1 hour ago, terrytini said: But why look at it in that context ? And what difference if hew would have spent well, we've spent ? I think you have to assess all managers in the context of the conditions in which they were working. Lambert, Sherwood, and Garde, and also McLeish were all working under the same conditions and Lambert outperformed the other three significantly in my opinion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latz Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 I'm in the Rowett camp. He has done a tremendous job in Small Heath, would love to see him with proper backing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Based on the fact that some people have no morals why settle for Sam Allardyce. Surely there are more corrupt guys out there somewhere in the world that we could have as managerial appointments. How about Michel Platini with Sepp Blater as his bitch! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 11 minutes ago, El-Reacho said: I think you have to assess all managers in the context of the conditions in which they were working. Lambert, Sherwood, and Garde, and also McLeish were all working under the same conditions and Lambert outperformed the other three significantly in my opinion. Agree. I couldn't see the relevance to if he was appointed now though. But yes, if Lambert hadn't already been broken by having been here he would have been a decent choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 16 minutes ago, CastleBromVilla said: Who gives a shit if he played and managed the crap down the road, he's Villa and the short sighted amoungst us would do well to remember. Its a risk, he's not had a job with the pressure he'll have with us, but he's done really well upto now and he'd be my choice, good young manager. Get him before Bournemouth go knocking to replace Howe when he links up with the national side. Almost nothing in football is as daft as the idea of getting 'one of us'. Has almost never worked anywhere. And he would, if he came, be judged on his performances. If they were poor his 'allegiance' would mean nothing. My problem with him is that doing well with Blues means pretty much nothing. And I don't mean out of some petty dislike of them , I don't suffer from that. (or benefit from it whichever "!) - it is just a totally different kettle of fish in what was expected, what is regarded as progress, how teams play against them compared to us (which allows him a particular style) and the fact he hasn't had anyone promoted from this League yet. In fact I wonder if he wasn't 'Villa' would he figure on many lists ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny_Villaman84 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 (edited) If RDM sack i will felt like we prone to un-mature for sack early for me yet he were wrong person to manager for villa from start, i am alway fans of Ralf Rasgnisk at moment he become manager so too late for it... usefully website for see who is available manager. http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/trainer/verfuegbaretrainer/statistik we should try :- André Villas-Boas as he left zenit last summer we offer him second-chance in low level might help him to re-track his career, and long term goal - champions leagues as Dr Xia wanted. Marcelo Bielsa (were my first choice before RDM so still should go for him) Rudi Garcia Quique Sánchez Flores (Currently manager in Espanyol) Frank Rijkaad Edited September 28, 2016 by Danny_Villaman84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael118 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, HanoiVillan said: I think we know Allardyce will do anything for cash at this point As I said, it's just not going to happen though. The rest of that list would require spending silly amounts of money even if they were interested, which they wouldn't be. We don't actually have infinite amounts of money. We're also in 17th or 18th place in the table, getting promoted this season is really not very likely. Spending a f-ton of money on a bling manager in the hope that they'll get promotion when it's already a fading hope is straight from the Peter Ridsdale school of football club ownership. I would rather us have spent a silly amount of money on a high quality manager than the money we spent on players this season with a lower quality manager. Ranieri at Leicester is a good example of a high quality manager doing extremely well with a squad that cost very little. It's the first and most important piece of the puzzle to get right because every manager is going to have their own ideas about players. Xia's first step wasn't the right one and now we are compromised to an extent because a new manager isn't going to agree with every choice RDM and his staff have made since they have been here and there has been a lot of them. It isn't about bling, it's just hiring the best and most qualified person for the job. If that is a manager from League 2 who has all the necessary qualities then I'd be all for it. Edited September 28, 2016 by Michael118 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyavfc Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 AVB. It's meant to be. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 3 minutes ago, Michael118 said: I would rather us have spent a silly amount of money on a high quality manager than the money we spent on players this season with a lower quality manager. Ranieri at Leicester is a good example of a high quality manager doing extremely well with a squad that cost very little. It's the first and most important piece of the puzzle to get right because every manager is going to have their own ideas about players. Xia's first step was not the right one and now we are compromised to an extent because a new manager isn't going to agree with every choice RDM and his staff have made since they have been here and there has been a lot of them. It isn't about bling, it's just hiring the best and most qualified person for the job. If that is a manager from League 2 who has all the necessary qualities then I'd be all for it. ? I may have misread but surely your first paragraph contradicts your last. In the first you imply there is a link between how much you pay for one and quality (Countless examples of high cost Managers acheiving naff all. Capello for England ? LVG at United ? To cite just one more recent example). In your final paragraph you say its to d owith hiring the best person for the job - which of course, it is, (nothing to do with wages necessarily) and I'm sure that's what they tried to do first time !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael118 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 2 minutes ago, terrytini said: ? I may have misread but surely your first paragraph contradicts your last. In the first you imply there is a link between how much you pay for one and quality (Countless examples of high cost Managers acheiving naff all. Capello for England ? LVG at United ? To cite just one more recent example). In your final paragraph you say its to d owith hiring the best person for the job - which of course, it is, (nothing to do with wages necessarily) and I'm sure that's what they tried to do first time !! Sometimes there is a link and sometimes there isn't. If it means spending big to bring in a manager who would be a good fit like Hiddink or Bielsa then I am in favour of it. It doesn't mean there isn't somebody who could be equally qualified with the necessary qualities in a lower league. I am just not aware of who that could be as I don't watch a lot of football outside of the Premier League. That said, any candidate from a lower league would have to be pretty impressive to equal what Hiddink or Bielsa would bring to the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 24 minutes ago, guyavfc said: AVB. It's meant to be. I used to wants him just for that reason! lol. Aston Villas Boas! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villaphan04 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Andre Villas-Boas would be my #1 choice. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 AVB - another try hard manager who flings shit at the wall hoping some of it sticks. Plus this one ultimately failed in England with two different clubs with lots of money and decent squads for the league they were in. No thanks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Get in Trump so we can build a wall, our defense needs that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelVilla Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Stick with RDM. Give Rowett the job next summer so he have a transfer window and a preseason to make us win games again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 10 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Get in Trump so we can build a wall, our defense needs that. No more retarded yanks at Villa please! I couldn't take the pain again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 this wont go down well but Warnock on a short term contract then bin him at end of season, the job he did at Rotherham last year was brilliant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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