VillaChris Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 1 hour ago, bobzy said: I get that Wenger wants to play a sort-of 3-4-3 and I understand that they have defensive injuries... but he can't seriously expect THAT defence to work well against a really good counter-attacking side, can he?! Switch to 4 at the back, play 2 proper centre backs. This has been a mess. Worked well enough in the cup final against Costa and Hazard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I think Xhaka is possibly the worst central midfielder I've seen since Carlton Palmer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, VillaChris said: Worked well enough in the cup final against Costa and Hazard. I thought Kolasinac only joined this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Dr_Pangloss said: I think Xhaka is possibly the worst central midfielder I've seen since Carlton Palmer. Swiss Westwood, sideways passing cowardly tackles offers **** all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Just now, Dr_Pangloss said: I think Xhaka is possibly the worst central midfielder I've seen since Mohamed Elneny. Tiding that sentence up for you Doctor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Zatman said: Swiss Westwood, sideways passing cowardly tackles offers **** all I think he's pretty decent tbh - ticks things over nicely. Couple of assists here too? But yeah, does **** all otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Just now, bobzy said: I thought Kolasinac only joined this season. Holding, Monreal, Bellerin and Ox worked well enough in the cup final. Kolasinac actually looked good in pre season. With all those young playes though you need a vocal leader who can tell players when to hold their positions so Mertasacker is needed for that. It's the same with Man.City when Kompany is frequently injured as Stones and Otamendi are clueless positionally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Just now, VillaChris said: Holding, Monreal, Bellerin and Ox worked well enough in the cup final. Kolasinac actually looked good in pre season. With all those young playes though you need a vocal leader who can tell players when to hold their positions so Mertasacker is needed for that. It's the same with Man.City when Kompany is frequently injured as Stones and Otamendi are clueless positionally. Yes, agreed. Hence saying about playing with centre backs (Mertesacker) rather than left backs (Kolasinac) when short of defensive players. They've won here, so it doesn't particularly matter, but... messy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 16 minutes ago, Zatman said: Swiss Westwood, sideways passing cowardly tackles offers **** all ...and even then he gives it away more often than not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 God, I despise Arsenal fans. Silence the whole game. 10 minutes away from booing off their own team and demanding Wenger out to a carnival atmosphere. **** plastics. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 20 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: ...and even then he gives it away more often than not. Pretty sure he had the highest pass completion ratio of any Premier League player last season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Kolasinac will turn out to be one of the best signings in the league this season. On a free and was excellent for Schalke pretty much every time a watched them. His work rate is silly and he's quality overall. Shame that as I can't stand Arsenal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 16 minutes ago, sne said: Kolasinac will turn out to be one of the best signings in the league this season. On a free and was excellent for Schalke pretty much every time a watched them. His work rate is silly and he's quality overall. Shame that as I can't stand Arsenal. Must admit, thought he looked pretty suspect defensively, but that's most likely down to Wenger's hideous tactics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Must admit, thought he looked pretty suspect defensively, but that's most likely down to Wenger's hideous tactics. I didn't see the game but I suspect you are right considering they shipped 3 in Did they play with a back 3 or 4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 21 minutes ago, sne said: I didn't see the game but I suspect you are right considering they shipped 3 in Did they play with a back 3 or 4? 3, and he was playing along side Monreal and Holding. Bellerin and Ox wing backs. Thought he looked very impressive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 9 minutes ago, a m ole said: 3, and he was playing along side Monreal and Holding. Bellerin and Ox wing backs. Thought he looked very impressive. Nice. Sure there will be defensive issues before they get used to the formation, but it's an interesting formation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 1 hour ago, sne said: Kolasinac will turn out to be one of the best signings in the league this season. On a free and was excellent for Schalke pretty much every time a watched them. His work rate is silly and he's quality overall. Shame that as I can't stand Arsenal. he had a brilliant game in World Cup vs Messi few years ago when he just 20 i think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Arsenal played it loads end of last season and looked decent. As I said last night they need an organiser in there otherwise players will get pulled out of position far too easily. Let's not forget Leicester are also a nightmare match up for any team that parks their defence close to the halfway line. Remember the damage they caused Man. City last season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Like night follows day, as soon as Arsenal lose, Wenger starts blaming the officials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 On 8/12/2017 at 12:44, Zatman said: he had a brilliant game in World Cup vs Messi few years ago when he just 20 i think Hasn't looked anything special so far, but then he is playing alongside a back line of total clowns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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