StefanAVFC Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 A 27 year old striker with two major injuries has more potential than Kodjia? Just what? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 On 10/26/2016 at 22:03, dont_do_it_doug. said: Class video. Class player. Imagine not rating Jonathan Kodjia. Great player! I genuinely think he can cut it in the PL too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael118 Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 10 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: A 27 year old striker with two major injuries has more potential than Kodjia? Just what? They are both the same age. He looked in more than reasonable shape when coming back from injury last season and was in good enough condition to score a hat trick for the under 23's earlier this season. I don't think potential is fixed but currently I see Kodjia as an upper level Championship / lower level Premier League player. I think Kozak can be better than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 9 minutes ago, Michael118 said: They are both the same age. He looked in more than reasonable shape when coming back from injury last season and was in good enough condition to score a hat trick for the under 23's earlier this season. I don't think potential is fixed but currently I see Kodjia as an upper level Championship / lower level Premier League player. I think Kozak can be better than that. I can't even be bothered. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 1 hour ago, Michael118 said: Kozak and Sellars have greater potential. Whether they realise it or not is something else. I would be playing Kodjia because he's scoring and in form. @Michael118 not even I can back you up on this one. Although I did like Kozak when he first came, but injuries plus have decimated any hope of him coming good for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 53 minutes ago, Michael118 said: They are both the same age. He looked in more than reasonable shape when coming back from injury last season and was in good enough condition to score a hat trick for the under 23's earlier this season. I don't think potential is fixed but currently I see Kodjia as an upper level Championship / lower level Premier League player. I think Kozak can be better than that. What attributes does Kozak have better than Kodjia? Is he quicker? No Better dribbling skills? No Better movement outside the box? No Better hold up play? No Better finishing? No Better passing? About the same Better heading? Possibly (we haven't put many crosses in to see how good Kodjia is) Better in the box movement? Probably I just cannot fathom how you can form the opinion that Kozak has more potential. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdomlahor Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 1 hour ago, Michael118 said: They are both the same age. He looked in more than reasonable shape when coming back from injury last season and was in good enough condition to score a hat trick for the under 23's earlier this season. I don't think potential is fixed but currently I see Kodjia as an upper level Championship / lower level Premier League player. I think Kozak can be better than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 (edited) Kodjia > Ayew > McCormack > Gestede > Hepburn-Murphy > Agbonlahor > Heskey > Blandy > Kozak Edited October 29, 2016 by DK82 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael118 Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 43 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: @Michael118 not even I can back you up on this one. Although I did like Kozak when he first came, but injuries plus have decimated any hope of him coming good for us. I don't buy that at all. I am sure it hasn't helped but there are plenty of examples of players from a wide range of sports coming back from serious injuries of a similar nature and going on to be very successful. He looked fine to me when he played last season and that's what I'm basing it on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 Just now, Michael118 said: I don't buy that at all. I am sure it hasn't helped but there are plenty of examples of players from a wide range of sports coming back from serious injuries of a similar nature and going on to be very successful. He looked fine to me when he played last season and that's what I'm basing it on. I kind of mean it in the sense of "For us" the ship may have sailed, however just like Gabby, i'm wondering if AFCON could be a saving grace? (Is he even training etc?). I would actually much rather us spend money elsewhere on the pitch ie midfield and if these players can add value so be it. However under current circumstances there is not even a glimmer of comparison to Kodjia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael118 Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 41 minutes ago, mikeyp102 said: What attributes does Kozak have better than Kodjia? Is he quicker? No Better dribbling skills? No Better movement outside the box? No Better hold up play? No Better finishing? No Better passing? About the same Better heading? Possibly (we haven't put many crosses in to see how good Kodjia is) Better in the box movement? Probably I just cannot fathom how you can form the opinion that Kozak has more potential. I just think if you put both of them in a mid table or higher Premier League team Kozak would adapt better. He is more intelligent, has better positional sense, works harder and brings other players into the game better. He's also not a bad finisher when he's confident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael118 Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 12 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: I kind of mean it in the sense of "For us" the ship may have sailed, however just like Gabby, i'm wondering if AFCON could be a saving grace? (Is he even training etc?). I would actually much rather us spend money elsewhere on the pitch ie midfield and if these players can add value so be it. However under current circumstances there is not even a glimmer of comparison to Kodjia. I hope he gets an opportunity at some point because I really think he has it in him to prove a lot of people wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, Michael118 said: but currently I see Kodjia as an upper level Championship / lower level Premier League player. I think Kozak can be better than that. lol? Edited October 29, 2016 by AshVilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 2 hours ago, rodders0223 said: I can't even be bothered. Why you wasting your time responding mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 28 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Why you wasting your time responding mate You just wasted your time responding to his response! Oh no, now I've done it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjvilla Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Michael118 said: I hope he gets an opportunity at some point because I really think he has it in him to prove a lot of people wrong. Did you see Derby away? By no fault of his own, it was embarrassing. Completely shambolic display. He is the slowest person I've ever seen in professional football. It was a real shame for him because that day showed he is shot as a footballer at the top level. U23's yeah, he could probably do it because rightly you said he's intelligent and finds himself in decent positions. But his lack of mobility and pace means he's gone because he won't find the space he wants to because he is too slow at the top level Edited October 29, 2016 by Mjvilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted October 29, 2016 Author Share Posted October 29, 2016 (edited) 3 hours ago, Michael118 said: Kozak and Sellars have greater potential. You live on bizzaroworld dude. How on earth am I supposed to take you seriously with a post like that? Edited October 29, 2016 by dont_do_it_doug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted October 29, 2016 Author Share Posted October 29, 2016 1 hour ago, Michael118 said: I don't buy that at all. I am sure it hasn't helped but there are plenty of examples of players from a wide range of sports coming back from serious injuries of a similar nature and going on to be very successful. He looked fine to me when he played last season and that's what I'm basing it on. He was **** crap. I mean he ran about a bit, which we weren't used to at the time, so fair play to him for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 9 minutes ago, It's Your Round said: You just wasted your time responding to his response! Oh no, now I've done it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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