Woodytom Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 14 hours ago, Dr_Pangloss said: For £15m you'd expect him to win games for us on his own. He's really just a decent striker with pace, with a bit of thought and planning we probably could have signed someone just as good for £5m. Could have got somebody far better for free. Ironically, the guy who Bristol City got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Bounced back from the mistake on Saturday glad to see it. Really like this lad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted October 19, 2016 Author Share Posted October 19, 2016 On 10/17/2016 at 09:54, Woodytom said: Could have got somebody far better for free. Ironically, the guy who Bristol City got. The player they loaned? Yeah, I guess so. If that's your preference. Though to be honest, if anyone other than Bristol City could really see that happening he wouldn't be at Bristol City. 3 goals in 8 games, half from a wide position. 2 in 2. He's getting there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dont_do_it_doug. Posted October 19, 2016 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2016 On 10/17/2016 at 09:00, Dr_Pangloss said: He's a £6m player at most. He was a £5m player a couple of pages back. Is he a £7m player today? Am I playing this right? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiezels Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 The lad ran his **** socks off at reading. he ent a winger but he tried and put a shift in. he also got himself into some great positions and skinned a fair few Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENTLEMAN Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 14 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: He was a £5m player a couple of pages back. Is he a £7m player today? Am I playing this right? £1m a goal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 I would say he has been our best player this season so far. Lad has so much ability if a bit selfish at times. Bit like Benteke. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Not his biggest fan from what I've seen so far but I haven't seen any of Tuesday game bar the two pens. Tho again, I can't really argue if he scores. 21 hours ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: Though to be honest, if anyone other than Bristol City could really see that happening he wouldn't be at Bristol City. Kind of the point that it's once again not us that's noticed a really good opportunity for a player but instead forked out a fortune. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il_serpente Posted October 21, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted October 21, 2016 4 hours ago, Woodytom said: Kind of the point that it's once again not us that's noticed a really good opportunity for a player but instead forked out a fortune. When we were skint and were having to pin our hopes on cheap, unknown players turning into world beaters, were you in favor of continuing with that kind of scouting and buying process rather than being taken over by an owner with money to spend? Were you advocating against Dr. Tony spending money on strikers with a history of scoring in the Championship in favor of taking a punt on some unknown instead? We didn't really have a lot of success with that model, bar Benteke (and Westwood). The whole advantage of having money to spend is that you greatly improve the chances that the players you buy will come good. Just because Abraham is having a great season and was cheap, it doesn't necessarily follow that Kodjia was a bad buy. If he scores goals and helps us, he was a good buy. We paid a premium to increase the likelihood this will be the case, but there are no guarantees. There's no magic number of goals where he becomes a good buy vs. a bad buy, and Abraham's performance has no impact on it. Bristol City got lucky. We got lucky with Benteke. Most teams get lucky once in a while. I'd rather spend the money and occasionally get unlucky (or make a bad buy) than spend no money and occasionally get lucky (or make a brilliant buy). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 5 hours ago, il_serpente said: When we were skint and were having to pin our hopes on cheap, unknown players turning into world beaters, were you in favor of continuing with that kind of scouting and buying process rather than being taken over by an owner with money to spend? Said this many a time but I never once moaned regarding the lack of funds made available. We had more than enough available to easily make a better fist of it than we did imo. The second half of your post I agree with entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 (edited) On 20/10/2016 at 08:45, omariqy said: I would say he has been our best player this season so far. Lad has so much ability if a bit selfish at times. Bit like Benteke. It's worth remembering Benteke had a similar start here....only 3 goals or so up to December 2012 and some poor misses v West Brom and Fulham. But people could see from his debut and early games he had something about him. Same for Kodjia imo at this level...the only thing I don't get is why we're so allergic to playing him through the middle. He plays that role for Ivory Coast (ahead of Bony) so not sure why we're so reluctant. I think our best 3 is Adomah- Kodjia- Ayew. For home games like tommorrow stick McCormack behind them as we need to win home games. Away though I have no issue with him sticking to the dogged and hardworking central trio as we had the other night. Whichever division you're in you need balance. Edited October 21, 2016 by VillaChris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted October 21, 2016 Author Share Posted October 21, 2016 1 hour ago, VillaChris said: For home games like tommorrow stick McCormack behind them as we need to win home games. We did so against Wolves. It didn't work. Doesn't mean that it wont, just pointing it out. For the time being we need to stay solid and grind out results, hope that our talent on the ball shines through. Kodjia should start up front though IMO, with Ayew and Adomah on the wings. McCormack will have his part to play eventually. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted October 21, 2016 Moderator Share Posted October 21, 2016 From what I've seen of him so far, and I admit I've not seen it all, I think we've a damn good player here. And remember that a big part of how a striker does in a team relies upon the midfield. This fella is doing well while 'Our midfield problems' is one of our most active threads. That should tell you something of what he'll do when we get the rather big bit in the middle all settled. Looking forward to it. Oh yes. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted October 21, 2016 Author Share Posted October 21, 2016 Just now, BOF said: From what I've seen of him so far, and I admit I've not seen it all, I think we've a damn good player here. And remember that a big part of how a striker does in a team relies upon the midfield. This fella is doing well while 'Our midfield problems' is one of our most active threads. That should tell you something of what he'll do when we get the rather big bit in the middle all settled. Looking forward to it. Oh yes. I agree, I think he has a ton of ability. He's a bit of a maverick though, he does his own thing. Difficult player to manage logistically I would imagine but I like that in some ways, he's unpredictable and he doesn't seem flummoxed by the 'playing for a big club now' tag in the least. Confidence is not something he looks short of. As stated above he starts up front for Ivory Coast ahead of Bony. That should tell us a lot about how he's thought of within the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Delphinho123 Posted October 21, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 21, 2016 Play him as an out and out striker with Ayew and Adomah either side. I think those 3 could prove a lethal combination. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 FWIW,and I know it's only a youtube video, but a lot of his work last season for Bristol seemed to be out on the left and right. ..I also remember the manager saying he hasn't had a great footballing education and was very raw, even at this age.. so maybe doesn't have the intelligence to lead the line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn1982 Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 I wonder at times if some posters actually watch our games. Kodija has shown in glimses he has huge potential. He glides past players with ease. He has very good pace and loads of skill. He is still quite raw but if we can get him the ball in better positions he'all score for fun. Out wide he ends up having to go past midfielders and defenders If we can get him with just the defence to go at it'll be bett for us. Hopefully that'll come with a stronger midfield. A front 3 of Adomah Kodija and Ayew should be quality. Loads of pace and all ca play all 3 positions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 I would respectfully suggest that complaints which include reference to the fee paid are maybe overlooking we have probably paid anywhere between 15-35 % premium for players given the widespread knowledge that (a) we were desperate and (b) had loads of money. Kind of renders fee based comments redundant IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 9 minutes ago, terrytini said: I would respectfully suggest that complaints which include reference to the fee paid are maybe overlooking we have probably paid anywhere between 15-35 % premium for players given the widespread knowledge that (a) we were desperate and (b) had loads of money. Kind of renders fee based comments redundant IMO. Huh, I disagree entirely. All the more reason to have a proper scouting structure in place that sources cheap effective options. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn1982 Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 50 minutes ago, terrytini said: I would respectfully suggest that complaints which include reference to the fee paid are maybe overlooking we have probably paid anywhere between 15-35 % premium for players given the widespread knowledge that (a) we were desperate and (b) had loads of money. Kind of renders fee based comments redundant IMO. The fee is £11m those quoting £15m must think he's going to be a success as that includes clauses. If we get promotion £4m is nothing! We needed proven goal scorers those stating we should've got the bloke Bristol brought in don't seem to realise that. I'm sure by the end of the season his fee won't be mentioned ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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