lexicon Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 He's a very talented player and one of the best we have. We really struggled without him last season but it seems like we've learnt not to rely on him too much now. Win win IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 What’s our points ratio W/W-O JK this season?.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 20 hours ago, Kingman said: What’s our points ratio W/W-O JK this season?.. In the league: WITH: W5-D2-L1 (17/24) WITHOUT: W2-D3-L2 (9/21) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 6 hours ago, VILLAMARV said: In the league: WITH: W5-D2-L1 (17/24) WITHOUT: W2-D3-L2 (9/21) Better without him? Yeah right. Over the long term he's a massively important player for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 No Kodjia. No party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted November 4, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted November 4, 2017 It seems clear to me that even when not scoring and not passing to our players he's such a handful for the opposition that he allows others around to flourish because the defenders just have to deal with him. When he doesn't play we tend to struggle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DCJonah Posted November 4, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2017 Better without him. Hilarious. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 17 hours ago, VILLAMARV said: In the league: WITH: W5-D2-L1 (17/24) WITHOUT: W2-D3-L2 (9/21) Now 9/24 without. 17/24 with. Incredible really. Bruce has a greater reliance on Kodjia for points - whether he scores or not - than any Manager/ player I can think of. And it’s even more dramatic if you include last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted November 5, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted November 5, 2017 (edited) We totally need him back. Such foolishness thinking otherwise - Hogan yeah. Edited November 5, 2017 by AVTuco 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One For The Road Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 (edited) On 04/11/2017 at 21:08, terrytini said: Now 9/24 without. 17/24 with. Incredible really. Bruce has a greater reliance on Kodjia for points - whether he scores or not - than any Manager/ player I can think of. Really? 2.1 points per game with and 1.5 points per game without shows we perform a bit better with him in the team but "a greater reliance by a manager on any player? Seems a bit over the top to me. Edited November 7, 2017 by One For The Road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YLN Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 25 minutes ago, One For The Road said: Really? 2.1 points per game with and 1.5 points per game without shows we perform a bit better with him in the team but "a greater reliance by a manager on any player? Seems a bit over the top to me. I know 0.6 points doesn't seem like a lot but that's an extra 27 points over the course of a season which last season was the difference between 6th and 18th. Kodjia needs to play 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One For The Road Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, YLN said: I know 0.6 points doesn't seem like a lot but that's an extra 27 points over the course of a season which last season was the difference between 6th and 18th. Kodjia needs to play Oh I agree that he is important. I just disputed the notion that he was the most important player a manager has ever had. (Or words to that effect) Edited November 7, 2017 by One For The Road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted November 7, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted November 7, 2017 52 minutes ago, One For The Road said: Really? 2.1 points per game with and 1.5 points per game without shows we perform a bit better with him in the team but "a greater reliance by a manager on any player? Seems a bit over the top to me. But 9/24 points from 8 games = 1.125 ppg & 17/24 points from 8 games = 2.125 ppg So that's 1 ppg more with Kodjia than without... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One For The Road Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 8 minutes ago, fightoffyour said: But 9/24 points from 8 games = 1.125 ppg & 17/24 points from 8 games = 2.125 ppg So that's 1 ppg more with Kodjia than without... Those weren't the stats. It was 9/21 and 17/24. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted November 7, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted November 7, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, One For The Road said: Those weren't the stats. It was 9/21 and 17/24. It's 9/24 in the post you quoted: On 04/11/2017 at 21:08, terrytini said: Now 9/24 without. 17/24 with. Incredible really. Bruce has a greater reliance on Kodjia for points - whether he scores or not - than any Manager/ player I can think of. And it’s even more dramatic if you include last season. And why would you ignore the last game? Furthermore, 9/21 points from 7 games = 1.286 ppg. Your 1.5 ppg has literally been plucked from nowhere. Edited November 7, 2017 by fightoffyour 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One For The Road Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 (edited) 37 minutes ago, fightoffyour said: It's 9/24 in the post you quoted: And why would you ignore the last game? Furthermore, 9/21 points from 7 games = 1.286 ppg. Your 1.5 ppg has literally been plucked from nowhere. It's 9/21 in the initial post. And ok so 1.3 ppg and not 1.5. Not literally plucked from nowhere but a miscalculation. My point still stands. I think we are better with JK in the team but not to the level I would say Bruce is massively reliant on him. Edited November 7, 2017 by One For The Road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 1.3 ppg is massive though. He hasn't even played that well or scored but still his he's still so important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted November 8, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted November 8, 2017 (edited) I'm bored so I've gone through the stats: Aston Villa with Jonathan Kodjia in 2016/17 52 points in 36 matches = 1.444 PPG (Points Per Game) Aston Villa sans Jonathan Kodjia in 2016/17 10 points in 10 matches = 1.000 PPG Aston Villa with Jonathan Kodjia in 2016/17 AB (After Bruce) 47 points in 30 matches = 1.567 PPG Aston Villa sans Jonathan Kodjia in 2016/17 AB 5 points in 5 matches = 1.000 PPG Aston Villa with Jonathan Kodjia in 2017/18 17 points in 8 matches = 2.125 PPG Aston Villa sans Jonathan Kodjia in 2017/18 9 points in 8 matches = 1.125 PPG Aston Villa with Jonathan Kodjia in the Championship 2016/17-2017/18 cummulative 69 points in 44 matches = 1.568 PPG Aston Villa sans Jonathan Kodjia in the Championship 2016/17-2017/18 cummulative 19 points in 18 matches = 1.056 PPG Edited November 8, 2017 by fightoffyour 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Thanks for saving me the trouble @fightoffyour. @One For The Road - I think using the stats I used would make sense when referring to my post ? And the difference over a season is huge. But I agree, there will doubtless be other cases of greater reliance ( which is partly why I said “ I can think of”). I shall rephrase it to saying “ very very very very reliant on this player “ ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 (edited) 17 minutes ago, terrytini said: Thanks for saving me the trouble @fightoffyour. @One For The Road - I think using the stats I used would make sense when referring to my post ? And the difference over a season is huge. But I agree, there will doubtless be other cases of greater reliance ( which is partly why I said “ I can think of”). I shall rephrase it to saying “ very very very very reliant on this player “ ? I agree Terry In one of my earlier posts I said we need a striker Davis is still learning his trade, its ok for him to be in the side for every game ,if we are aiming for midtable, but promotion could be a tough call......However, where i can argue with myself is Andy Gray was only 19, so not sure. Scott Hogan, despite all the arguments as to why......its just not happening and I think a replacement needs to be sought. Gabby is well documented Samba is well desperate RHM well i don't know what he is up to. Edited November 8, 2017 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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