romavillan Posted September 11, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted September 11, 2018 On 02/09/2018 at 20:03, av1 said: I know pre season isn't always a grest barometer but he looked heads and shoulders above other options at RB. Now given that he also looked ok at CB in the cup last season (apologies i can't remember the opponents) i thought he would have at least been a good addition to the match day squad. Whether we agree or not, i think its clear that Bruce simply doesn't fancy him. Yeah right, he looked great in a few games didn't he? Player of the pre season, and if your centre backs/defensive midfielder can't build from the back then your full backs have to be able to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 I think he is our best right back. The way he played in preseason really made me think we signed a new player. I really have no clue why Bruce isn't giving him a chance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Czechlad said: I think he is our best right back. The way he played in preseason really made me think we signed a new player. I really have no clue why Bruce isn't giving him a chance. I agree. I think we would look better and significantly stronger lining up with:- De Laet Chester Tuanzebe Hutton Rather than:- Tuanzebe Chester Jedinak Hutton 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted September 11, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted September 11, 2018 53 minutes ago, AvfcRigo82 said: I agree. I think we would look better and significantly stronger lining up with:- De Laet Chester Tuanzebe Hutton Rather than:- Tuanzebe Chester Jedinak Hutton Or even Taylor on the left to be properly balanced, but would be too harsh on the scottish cafu in my opinion really. Even with using De Laet though, we're 2 central defenders short. The mind boggles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted September 12, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted September 12, 2018 On 10/09/2018 at 19:37, AvfcRigo82 said: I would be shocked if he wasn't given that Axel is a centre back. He's probably a better CB than Axel too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junxs Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Thing I don't understand is how Bruce was singing his praises in after match interviews during preseason. Yet he refuses to use him even when our defence is the worst its been for as long as I can remember Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 I remain baffled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 I'm pretty sure he hasn't even made the bench in the league. Quite odd. I thought he was a shoo-in for RB after his suspension. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Off to the penal colony like the other dissidents? Once again I hope we have a clause in stall so we can recall him as soon as the manager is replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 My flabber is gasted 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USA_Villa Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Another outcast to add to the long list that Steve Bruce has exorcised. Madness. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 GIVE HIM A **** CHANCE FOR **** SAKE!!!! All you ask is one chance at least to stake a claim and prove yourself, he has never been given that in a full 11 in a league game. At the risk of being one of the posters who slates Bruce in every thread...**** off Bruce! Well. I did it. Sorry. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 played pre season, looked ok, defence is currently utter shit, not given a chance and shipped out open up the mitchell clark thread for a sense of de ja vu but in that one people will at least blame the kid rather than bruce 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post villabromsgrove Posted September 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 13, 2018 De Laet was probably our best defender in pre season. He has height, a bit of pace decent technique, and he takes a good throw in. All pluses you would think. Unfortunately he's not one of Bruce's inner circle of favourites, so 'being more than worth his place' means nothing. I'm not going to apologise for bringing Bruce into non Bruce posts, because he's responsible for the perplexing use, and sometimes down right misuse of our playing squad. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 He should take up golf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolteExile Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Unless this is part of the conditions to bring Terry (or AN Other centre half) in, this makes no sense at all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 I think this is a new strategy by the new owners in sending as many of our players out on loan and I am totally with it. We have struggled with our players breaking into the first team, simply because they just are not good enough,where as other teams have been following that strategy for decades and there players break into the first team no problem. We have been way to strict in the past in letting out young players go out there and taste first team football and it restricts them eventually. Think of it as a young kid leaving school, who has got more chance of getting the job, someone who goes into a bit more education, gets it on paper then goes for a job or someone who goes direct for a job, we all know how it works. The other thing is while we have been so strict loaning our players out, they are pretty much sitting on there butts, not only wasting there talents built also not getting any experience by playing. We need those players to go out on loan and come back better and this in my eyes is something we should of been doing just like so many other teams decades ago, yet we haven't. I know some of you disagree with so many going out on loan but let's be realistic, our players are lacking because of it. In the end when these players come back, I bet they will be a better bunch and players who we can rely on and look to, too fill positions we need them too. I see all these loaners as a temporary thing, if we adopt this kind of strategy, again like so many clubs who do it, eventually we won't need to rely on loaners as we will have breakthroughs alot more. It just takes time for a club like ours to start something like this when we should of been doing it all along. I dont think its just FFP thats set this loan thing off, i believe its also to get our guys out on loan so that in the end we can rely on the players we have down the line. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sne Posted September 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 13, 2018 18 minutes ago, Dave-R said: I think this is a new strategy by the new owners in sending as many of our players out on loan and I am totally with it. We have struggled with our players breaking into the first team, simply because they just are not good enough,where as other teams have been following that strategy for decades and there players break into the first team no problem. We have been way to strict in the past in letting out young players go out there and taste first team football and it restricts them eventually. Think of it as a young kid leaving school, who has got more chance of getting the job, someone who goes into a bit more education, gets it on paper then goes for a job or someone who goes direct for a job, we all know how it works. The other thing is while we have been so strict loaning our players out, they are pretty much sitting on there butts, not only wasting there talents built also not getting any experience by playing. We need those players to go out on loan and come back better and this in my eyes is something we should of been doing just like so many other teams decades ago, yet we haven't. I know some of you disagree with so many going out on loan but let's be realistic, our players are lacking because of it. In the end when these players come back, I bet they will be a better bunch and players who we can rely on and look to, too fill positions we need them too. I see all these loaners as a temporary thing, if we adopt this kind of strategy, again like so many clubs who do it, eventually we won't need to rely on loaners as we will have breakthroughs alot more. It just takes time for a club like ours to start something like this when we should of been doing it all along. I dont think its just FFP thats set this loan thing off, i believe its also to get our guys out on loan so that in the end we can rely on the players we have down the line. Was this supposed to go in the Mitch Clark thread? DeLaet is hardly going to learn anything by going to Australia, maybe playing the didgeridoo or surfing, but that's about it. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 So aswell as not having a recognised CB to partner Chester, Bruce has also released 3 guys in Clark, Elphick and RDL that are at least capable of playing there in the event if an injury. Fecking madness. The bloke is trolling us now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Makes total sense, had a great pre-season so we should be shipping him out and playing a centre half in his position. Absolutely nothing wrong with this. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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