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Pretty much the only guy not already on holiday against Fulham. He was busting a gut and even taking up forward positions while almost everyone else was trudging around. 

Got a lot of time and respect for this guy as a professional and I'm hoping that his attitude rubs off on some of the rest of them.

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On Friday, April 07, 2017 at 16:58, carewjust4u said:

This is why he should be player of the season, the team cannot effectively function without him.

 

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Interesting stats. Can you do the same for Kodjia? 

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22 minutes ago, Farlz said:

Was excellent today 

Still some wayward passing but rock solid IMO and much better than Westwood.

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27 minutes ago, Farlz said:

Was excellent today 

Sorry mate I've got to disagree. Today outlined his flaws. Blues are a shower of shit, we didn't need a dedicated defensive midfielder and his inability to pass a football again meant we looked crap going forward. 

A professional footballer at thos level should offer more. 

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30 minutes ago, av1 said:

Sorry mate I've got to disagree. Today outlined his flaws. Blues are a shower of shit, we didn't need a dedicated defensive midfielder and his inability to pass a football again meant we looked crap going forward. 

A professional footballer at thos level should offer more. 

Lansbury and Hourihane (when he is allowed to start) are the midfielders supposed to show creativity.

Jedinak headed away countless free kicks and corners today.

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1 minute ago, VillaChris said:

Lansbury and Hourihane (when he is allowed to start) are the midfielders supposed to show creativity.

Jedinak headed away countless free kicks and corners today.

Which is the job of the defence. Look I'm not beating on Jedinak, there are times when he could be of benefit. I guess i dont like what he represents in Bruce's defensive set up. 

Small heath are shit, there was no need for someone like Jedinak today. All it does is invites pressure..

 

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For me, he flatters to decieve. Wins alot in the air and gives the back 4 good protection, but stiffles our attack massively and sometimes puts us under pressure with his useless passing ability.

For all the problems he solves he creates almost as many. 

He's a central defender playing in midfield. He is Carlos Sanchez

For me, we need to to and sign a really athletic or physical player to dominate the midfield. We've signed Lansbury and Hourihane to dominate the ball with their passing but so far they've not been able to. Not to say once they get to know each other they'll improve.

I thought he had a mixed day today as he does more often than not. Wins everything in the air, pretty ropey on the ball.

 

 

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17 hours ago, av1 said:

Which is the job of the defence. Look I'm not beating on Jedinak, there are times when he could be of benefit. I guess i dont like what he represents in Bruce's defensive set up. 

Small heath are shit, there was no need for someone like Jedinak today. All it does is invites pressure..

 

I would argue that the game highlighted exactly why we need him, hence why the opposition struggled to create anything of note with more possession. It is no coincidence we have won ONE game without him, and conceded on average twice as many. The defensive line needs that support, it's the same principle as to why Huth & Morgan looked like world-class centre backs with Kante infront of them....Do not under estimate his influence on his team-mate's performances, we tried the gung-ho attacking approach and leaked goals like no tomorrow. 

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I wonder if we could have Sanchez and Jedinak as our DMs next season. Both aren't the best passers, but would work in the championship. I just don't trust Jedinak to be able to play 40+ matches in the championship and play internationally for Australia. 

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6 minutes ago, Czechlad said:

I wonder if we could have Sanchez and Jedinak as our DMs next season. Both aren't the best passers, but would work in the championship. I just don't trust Jedinak to be able to play 40+ matches in the championship and play internationally for Australia. 

Sanchez loan contained a buy option which I expect they will activate.

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Jedi is a perfect or even vital player for a team who intends to sit back and invite pressure.

If we are to play any other way thou I think we must have a more versatile and most of all mobile player next season.

 

 

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On 24/04/2017 at 16:28, sne said:

Jedi is a perfect or even vital player for a team who intends to sit back and invite pressure.

If we are to play any other way thou I think we must have a more versatile and most of all mobile player next season.

 

 

Yep i agree.

I've been critical of Jedinak, but in hindsight that is probably Borne out of my frustration with our setup. 

When you look at teams that play with a dedicated defensive midfielder, There is normally 2 different styles.

i) The guy that dictates play, your Pirlo, Carrick, Huddlestone etc. Now lets cut to the chase, Jedinak can't pass a ball, so this isn't what he's there for.

ii) The destroyer. The guy that breaks up play and protects his defence. Now that sounds about right, Jedinak is great at all that.

However, generally a destroyer is there facilitate a attacking 3 infront of him, who all support the lone striker. This is where our problems begin, Bruce doesn't play like that. Take Sunday for instance. Against a shit sha side, he had Lansbury and Bacuna in there with Jedinak, neither really offered anything offensively, so Hogan was isolated and for periods of the game, certainly the second half, blues were on top. 

Now i have read comments on here suggesting that justified Jedinaks inclusion, that without him we may have conceded. I however would argue that Jedinaks inclusion, in a midfield of Lansbury and Bacuna is the very reason we was put under so much pressure in the first place. 

Now for me there is 2 options. Push Lansbury 20 yards further forward (he stats suggest he regularly got forward for Forest) and let Jedinak be the sole "destroyer", or drop Jedinak and have Lansbury as the deep player. He puts himself about just as much, and has a far superior range of passing. 

This all sounds again like I'm having a dig at MJ, I'm not really, i can see what the guy could offer in a properly set up midfield. Sadly, Bruce hasn't got a properly set up midfield because he wants every one of them to sit deep. 

 

 

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He has served his purpous in solidifying us. However he is one of the main problems Bruce has to address in the summer.

If he can move him successfully to the back then all the better, but in that midfield role we are effectivly playing with 5 defenders, its no wonder we have problems scoring. It would be fine if we had 2 attack minded fullbacks but Im not holding my breath for a change in philosopy here.

In saying this Id like to see him start the season to give us a good base, as the smaller the changes the better, but id like to see him gradually phased out once we are really underway.

Hes getting on now and another whole season may be too much for him anyway, but over reliance on him would be a massive gamble.

He would also make a fantastic sub to be able to bring on to protect a lead.

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22 hours ago, Nigel said:

He has served his purpous in solidifying us. However he is one of the main problems Bruce has to address in the summer.

If he can move him successfully to the back then all the better, but in that midfield role we are effectivly playing with 5 defenders, its no wonder we have problems scoring. It would be fine if we had 2 attack minded fullbacks but Im not holding my breath for a change in philosopy here.

In saying this Id like to see him start the season to give us a good base, as the smaller the changes the better, but id like to see him gradually phased out once we are really underway.

Hes getting on now and another whole season may be too much for him anyway, but over reliance on him would be a massive gamble.

He would also make a fantastic sub to be able to bring on to protect a lead.

Based on what? He has barely skipped a beat, he has gotten fitter as the season has wore on. 

For years we have been crying out for a proper decent defensive midfielder. We've not had one since what, Boateng? Within a season we're looking at phasing him out because he's not dynamic enough. 

This thread has gone absolutely bonkers, Jedinak has been a rock and form notwithstanding if we don't have enough ability in Hourihane and Lansbury to allow us that little bit extra protection then I despair at where we go next as a club. Winning those 1-0's is just as important as (hopefully) giving out the occasional trouncing. 

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On 4/24/2017 at 16:28, sne said:

Jedi is a perfect or even vital player for a team who intends to sit back and invite pressure.

If we are to play any other way thou I think we must have a more versatile and most of all mobile player next season.

 

 

Agreed, the teams towards the top of the table seem to have defensive midfielders who offer more than just defending. The game seems to be evolving beyond having such a narrow specialism in the team. Don't get me wrong, he has been important for us this season, but we're 12th in the **** league, we need more in central midfield. 

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