TRO Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 16 minutes ago, romavillan said: Hr's not wht you'd describe as being a monster physically, but he was our best player last season at the back by a mile. Might have been our player of the season. Got a few more seasons left in him at this level. I'd only sell him if we know we've got better comgin through from the academy ready to step up. then we need a powerful ally next to him to give balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie09 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 1 hour ago, TRO said: then we need a powerful ally next to him to give balance. Micah 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted July 21, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted July 21, 2018 I think he's a cracking player. Reads the game really well. Which is the most important attribute for a defender imo regardless of physical size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted July 21, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted July 21, 2018 1 hour ago, TRO said: then we need a powerful ally next to him to give balance. Putin? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffy Biro Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Are we doing the whole 'hes about to be sold so hes overrated' thing? He was one of the top 5 CB's in the league last year everyone would agree surely? Got his downsides like anyone else but we'd be less of a team to lose him, especially to bloody stoke. Selling our best players to Stoke ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, PieFacE said: I think he's a cracking player. Reads the game really well. Which is the most important attribute for a defender imo regardless of physical size. He does read the game well and its to his credit....but that is more relevant in the prem......its difficult, because like you I have seen him play very well, but with a certain type of forward he gets out muscled. In this league, they pull you around, Ref's turn a blind eye and before you know where you are the ball is in the net......physical attributes are crucial in this league. as an example....Bamba and Morrison are not better technically than Chester, but more effective in the championship.....Bartley & Janssen when they were at Leeds were similar.....Flint & Baker were formidable until their overall season went pear shaped. I don't think Baker is better than Chester, but offers something in presence, chester can't......you have to cover all eventualities Edited July 21, 2018 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Cliffy Biro said: Are we doing the whole 'hes about to be sold so hes overrated' thing? He was one of the top 5 CB's in the league last year everyone would agree surely? Got his downsides like anyone else but we'd be less of a team to lose him, especially to bloody stoke. Selling our best players to Stoke ffs. No I thought it all season......but thats the point being raised, his downside.....I don't say he is a bad player....just highlighting his weakness, like we do for all our players. We will only be less of a team if we sign someone worse to replace him If you see a downside ,like at Cardiff.....do you just ignore it or do you attempt to get a stronger player. I think at 29 a decent fee and a younger more powerful replacement will do fine for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffy Biro Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Like who on our budget is going to replace him? Assuming we even have a budget at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 38 minutes ago, Cliffy Biro said: Like who on our budget is going to replace him? Assuming we even have a budget at the moment. Exactly, can only see Bruce recruiting an overage and inferior replacement. Defence is the biggest concern regarding our squad imo and the last thing I want is the return of hoofball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jas10 said: Exactly, can only see Bruce recruiting an overage and inferior replacement. Defence is the biggest concern regarding our squad imo and the last thing I want is the return of hoofball. The return of sweeper/striker Christopher Samba? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 30 minutes ago, sne said: The return of sweeper/striker Christopher Samba? no thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTTERDAM1982 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 I think he developed under Terry, both positionally and on the ball. Don't rate him that highly tbh, if we get £8/10m for him, and we can keep Jack by doing so, then I would be ok with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post andym Posted July 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 21, 2018 Can we stop with the cliche that the Championship is this tough league where you need physical size to be effective, that somehow it has this unique rough style that isn't present in the Premier League, and therefore Chester is limited and easily replaceable. Players in the Premier League are physically just as strong and fast as players in the Championship, they are fitter and they think the game twice as fast. Chester is one of the few we have who could cope in the Premier League (albeit he's a bottom half standard player at best), and that means he's easily good enough for us, and is definitely one of the top CBs in this division. We'd be mad to think we can just sell him and easily replace him. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 I think when a player is potentially on the verge of leaving it is easy to try and sugar coat it and think he isn't all that and can be replaced. If we are to get out of this division the best chance of doing that is by keeping our best players and improving those around them otherwise we are making the job much tougher. Chester is one of our best players and if possible we have to retain him. I'll be gutted if he goes especially to a lesser Championship club. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 1 hour ago, sne said: The return of sweeper/striker Christopher Samba? Wiki still have him as a Villa player 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Need a top cb to play with h8m with pace preferably. Chester for me is crucial if w have aspirations of going up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 (edited) 29 minutes ago, markavfc40 said: I think when a player is potentially on the verge of leaving it is easy to try and sugar coat it and think he isn't all that and can be replaced. If we are to get out of this division the best chance of doing that is by keeping our best players and improving those around them otherwise we are making the job much tougher. Chester is one of our best players and if possible we have to retain him. I'll be gutted if he goes especially to a lesser Championship club. Agreed, it really isn't a tough league. 70% of home games last year I am not even sure Chester broke a sweat tbfh.The myth that every team is Wimbledon reincarnated really needs to die. The truth is it's full of a lot of shite teams, with shite player, who try to play football but are too shite to every really succeed. The end result being a lot of dead passes going straight to our CBs over and over and over and over again. Bolton were the only real team to come and mix it at Villa Park that I can remember. Edited July 21, 2018 by rodders0223 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen_Evans Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 He’s in the team today! That’s a bit odd if a sale is as close as the Mail said it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 (edited) He starts and Elphick is on the bench. I'd imagine if he was on the verge of a move he would not be getting game time that suggests he is in the managers plans for the upcoming season. Edited July 21, 2018 by markavfc40 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Crucial that we hold onto him imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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