dounavilla Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 I would ask where this figure is being sourced from but I'm guessing rumour, most of our signings from last summer and Jan will all be earning a pretty sum which is largely down to the Dr financing us to try to get us promoted. I for kne have absolutely no problem with that and accept there will be some good and some bad, and what's the alternative? A Randy ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 I stopped at 48k a week. Football in this country is a joke sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJim Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 At what point does an AWOL footballer get his contract torn up? Not saying RM deserves such treatment - if he has mental health issues then obviously he doesn't. But the situation does beg the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted April 18, 2017 Visiting Supporter Share Posted April 18, 2017 Have these issues started since he signed with Villa or have they been there before that? If it's the latter then someone **** up big time when researching the character of the player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 (edited) I'm starting to believe the real issue might be a drinking problem. Speaking from experience unfortunately. Or could it be that finally getting his "big move" and failing destroyed him mentally? Who knows. Edited April 18, 2017 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted April 19, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted April 19, 2017 1 hour ago, rodders0223 said: I don't think Ross could ever justify £50,000 a week even playing week in week out at his then level. I think that is staggering that this deal was signed off as a Championship side. There should be major question marks asked here. i think he was signed at a time where automatic promotion was envisaged in which case they threw money at who they thought would do that. I'm not saying it was smart. In fact it has proved to be quite dumb. However if Ross had played his part in our promotion then I think his wages could be justified. Hindsight. The friend that's never around until its too late too help. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 6 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: I'm starting to believe the real issue might be a drinking problem. Speaking from experience unfortunately. Or could it be that finally getting his "big move" and failing destroyed him mentally? Who knows. When he pulled his antics with Villa, I thought then that he might have a depression/anxiety/drink/drugs crisis. Clearly this is more serious than just Jack Grealish-style fuckups. I hope he gets the help he needs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Given our history I'm pretty sure the answer is no. But do we have behavior clauses in our contracts, and is there any way we can cancel his? Even with player power being what it is, we surely can't be expected to pay him £50k/w to sit around and get fat and drunk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 41 minutes ago, sne said: Given our history I'm pretty sure the answer is no. But do we have behavior clauses in our contracts, and is there any way we can cancel his? Even with player power being what it is, we surely can't be expected to pay him £50k/w to sit around and get fat and drunk? I'd do it for a fraction of the cost and I'm already halfway there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubbs Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 1 hour ago, sne said: Given our history I'm pretty sure the answer is no. But do we have behavior clauses in our contracts, and is there any way we can cancel his? Even with player power being what it is, we surely can't be expected to pay him £50k/w to sit around and get fat and drunk? Isn't that pretty much what we've paid Gabby to do for a few years now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted April 19, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted April 19, 2017 8 hours ago, BigJim said: At what point does an AWOL footballer get his contract torn up? He's not AWOL. At least that's not how I read it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow1988 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 10 hours ago, VillaAlex said: Jesus Christ, we're going to be stuck with him aren't we. Who in their right mind would take him even on a cut price deal. What a financial disaster. Sunderland maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante_Lockhart Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 If it's mental issues then I agree that we need to put an arm around him and help him through it. Alienating him and treating him like a waster will only do further harm. He's a good player and he can play a part for us next season, but he needs help to get him back to that point. It's in OUR best interests to get him there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 1 minute ago, Dante_Lockhart said: If it's mental issues then I agree that we need to put an arm around him and help him through it. Alienating him and treating him like a waster will only do further harm. He's a good player and he can play a part for us next season, but he needs help to get him back to that point. It's in OUR best interests to get him there. It is true if there are deeper issues than the club ought to support him. However if it's laziness and just after a pay day than he deartves absolutely no sympathy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 If he is not going to play football, I wish he would do the right thing and just retire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 2 hours ago, AJ said: If he is not going to play football, I wish he would do the right thing and just retire. If you were signed off work ill, would you retire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 4 hours ago, Dante_Lockhart said: If it's mental issues then I agree that we need to put an arm around him and help him through it. Alienating him and treating him like a waster will only do further harm. He's a good player and he can play a part for us next season, but he needs help to get him back to that point. It's in OUR best interests to get him there. If it is mental problems, it should be like any other employee. Signed off work ( so picking up statutory pay, after the allocated sick pay) and then to follow NHS or private medical care advice. Why should footballers be treated differently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted April 19, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted April 19, 2017 The good thing about this news is that he may not be the unproffesional waster he has been painted in recent times! if he's genuinely ill that would explain a lot of his actions, not condone but definately explain. there is also the chance that with the correct attention he could recover! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted April 19, 2017 Moderator Share Posted April 19, 2017 It is starting to sound more and more like a genuine problem that needs help, rather than a wayward professional. That doesn't mean Villa were wrong at the time, because these things develop over a time period. Maybe that was the start of it. But it might mean that they change how they deal with it from this point onwards. It's never nice to see someone potentially unravelling in a relatively public eye, with the lack of empathy that goes with someone simply earning a large wage. You can ask fans to spare a thought, but there'll always be those who can't or won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troglodyte Posted April 19, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted April 19, 2017 I wouldn't wish to speculate on what his issues might be, but if there are mental health problems at play here, surely Bruce's approach to the gate incident has to come under scrutiny? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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