Chindie Posted July 6, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted July 6, 2016 After 7 years this is finally out today. It's going to be a complete damp squib because it's not gong to say what people would like it to and it's not going to have any repercussions for anyone or anything, but there's 2 million words of something. Presumably the world's most long winded sternly worded letter to the editor... Or a very well described slap on the wrist of nobody in particular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 I'll guess what happened in less than 2.6 million words. Military intelligence (I once had a badge that said it was a 'contradiction in terms') had unconfirmed information that Iraq was capable of producing WMD. A few months and dozens of high level management meetings later, this went though the 'yes but what if...' process. If they could have WMD they probably do have WMD. All set to a back drop of atrocities being committed by the Iraq government on it's own people, evidence of which made it easier to 'sell' military intervention. Unfortunately, the U.S. and many of the governments of Europe were too quick to believe the military intelligence and were listening too hard to the advice being given that action would be reasonably swift, save lives in the long term and free millions from tyranny, whilst the financial cost could be partially offset by oil control gains. In summary, don't just consider advice from those whose who are set to gain (military budgets and power) from their advice being followed. Weigh up the gain of saving hundreds of thousands from tyranny and torture against the possibility of several million spending a generation or more attempting to cope with a vacuous society - freedom for some, hell for others. I hope the benefits of hindsight are heeded for generations to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 I'll wait for the film. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mjmooney Posted July 6, 2016 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted July 6, 2016 tl;dr 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post limpid Posted July 6, 2016 Administrator Popular Post Share Posted July 6, 2016 Will this lead to them closing more railways? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Finally, Chilcott can crack on with triggering article 50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 rip labour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaForever1970 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Iraq war was illegal! Who knew? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Going to be fun watching the establishment try and dig their way out of this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaglint Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Good comment on Twitter that bridges the two cluster fuzzles. What we've learned today is that if you want to overhaul a country's whole political system it's best you have a plan in place for what replaces it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccfcman Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 45 minutes ago, CarewsEyebrowDesigner said: Going to be fun watching the establishment try and dig their way out of this one. Already under way, Cameron whitewashing it. No sense of horror at all the innocent deaths. Frightening how one's political leanings can work so hard to cover up their human nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccfcman Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 This, all day long. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 One should realise that the UK government's decisions wouldn't have been any different under either of the two major parties. Whatever the report had concluded there would be those who see it as nothing more than a 'lessons learnt' summary and those who would see it as a reason for political upheaval. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 1 hour ago, CarewsEyebrowDesigner said: Going to be fun watching the establishment try and dig their way out of this one. Well, it was all a long time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Is there like, a summary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 1 minute ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: Is there like, a summary? Yes, it's called The Executive Summary and it can be found here -http://www.iraqinquiry.org.uk/media/246416/the-report-of-the-iraq-inquiry_executive-summary.pdf Granted, it is summarizing thousands of pages so it is quite lengthy itself! If you are looking for a summary of the summary, I'm sure a few papers will get on it soon. Anyway, thought Corbyn was decent there. Shameful heckles by Labour MPs. No apology though, which is interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted July 6, 2016 Moderator Share Posted July 6, 2016 7 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: Is there like, a summary? Yes, it was a bit of a boo boo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted July 6, 2016 Moderator Share Posted July 6, 2016 22 minutes ago, TrentVilla said: it was a bit of a boo boo Still - no harm done, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Politicians hide themselves away They only started the war Why should they go out to fight? They leave that role to the poor Yeah Time will tell on their power minds Making war just for fun Treating people just like pawns in chess Wait 'till their judgment day comes Yeah! So you're saying that's not today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 David Cameron basically said "don't worry, I've already sorted it" didn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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