JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 2 hours ago, useless said: Is the Technical Director who the Birmingham Mail said was going to be seen as a coup. For a championship club apparently. However is this even the same position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn1982 Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 He's an improvement on what we've got. it also seems it's been nailed on for a while as he tweeted about us signing Elphick on the 20th June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 At Southampton he was some sort of analyst, I think he has the same job here, pretty much replacing Almstadt. I've no idea if he's the 'Technical Director' that was spoken about, I was expecting a bigger name for that job. But good luck to him whatever is role shall be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Thomas Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 (edited) This looks like a great appointment to me. Southampton have been doing exceptionally well in recent times - lets hope he can bring some of that expertise here. Also seems to be a RDM connection - Di Matteo took over at MK Dons on July 2008 when Stone was team performance analyst. https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewstone24 Quote Andrew Stone background and experience Head Analyst - Southampton Football Club - April 2012 – Present (4 years 4 months) First Team Performance Analyst - Southampton Football Club - June 2010 – April 2012 (1 year 11 months) First Team Performance Analyst - Milton Keynes Dons Football Club - June 2006 – May 2010 (4 years) Edited July 5, 2016 by Gary Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boumasbabies Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 1 hour ago, JPAngel said: Bloody kept this one quiet didn't they? Some very decent signings in here since he started with Southampton 6 years ago: 2015/16 Harry Lewis Shrewsbury Signed 01 Jul, 2015 Cuco Martina FC Twente £1,000,000 07 Jul, 2015 Jordy Clasie Feyenoord £8,000,000 15 Jul, 2015 Oriol Romeu Chelsea £5,000,000 12 Aug, 2015 Virgil van Dijk Celtic £11,500,000 01 Sep, 2015 Charlie Austin QPR £4,000,000 16 Jan, 2016 Nathan Redmond Norwich £10,000,000 25 Jun, 2016 2014/15 Isaac Nehemie Southampton 01 Jul, 2014 Dusan Tadic FC Twente £10,900,000 08 Jul, 2014 Graziano Pelle Feyenoord £8,000,000 12 Jul, 2014 Fraser Forster Celtic £10,000,000 09 Aug, 2014 Shane Long Hull £12,000,000 14 Aug, 2014 Florin Gardos Steaua £4,000,000 14 Aug, 2014 Sadio Mane RB Salzburg £11,800,000 01 Sep, 2014 Ryan Bertrand Chelsea £10,000,000 02 Feb, 2015 Juanmi Malaga £5,000,000 16 Jun, 2015 Cedric Soares Sp. Lisbon £4,700,000 18 Jun, 2015 Harry Lewis Shrewsbury Signed 01 Jul, 2015 2013/14 Dejan Lovren Lyon £8,500,000 14 Jun, 2013 Victor Wanyama Celtic £12,500,000 11 Jul, 2013 Pablo Osvaldo Roma £15,000,000 18 Aug, 2013 2012/13 Steve Davis Rangers Free 06 Jul, 2012 Nathaniel Clyne C Palace Signed 18 Jul, 2012 Paulo Gazzaniga Gillingham Signed 20 Jul, 2012 Emmanuel Mayuka Young Boys Signed 29 Aug, 2012 Maya Yoshida VVV Venlo Signed 30 Aug, 2012 Gaston Ramirez Bologna £12,000,000 31 Aug, 2012 Artur Boruc Fiorentina Free 22 Sep, 2012 Vegard Forren Molde Signed 18 Jan, 2013 2011/12 Jack Cork Chelsea Signed 11 Jul, 2011 Steve De Ridder De Graafschap Signed 22 Jul, 2011 Daniel Fox Burnley Signed 11 Aug, 2011 Jos Hooiveld Celtic Signed 31 Aug, 2011 Tadanari Lee Sanf Hiroshima Free 25 Jan, 2012 Billy Sharp Doncaster £1,800,000 30 Jan, 2012 Jay Rodriguez Burnley £6,000,000 10 Jun, 2012 2010/11 Danny Butterfield C Palace Free 17 Jul, 2010 Jonathan Forte Scunthorpe Signed 31 Jan, 2011 Richard Chaplow Southampton Signed 31 Jan, 2011 Jack Stephens Plymouth £150,000 21 Apr, 2011 Tadic, Mane, Long, Van Dijk, Clyne, Lovren, Wanyama, Forster, Pelle.... All worth 20-30million This is a great signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 I don't think Stone is responsible for scouting those players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Just now, useless said: At Southampton he was some sort of analyst, I think he has the same job here, pretty much replacing Almstadt. I've no idea if he's the 'Technical Director' that was spoken about, I was expecting a bigger name for that job. But good luck to him whatever is role shall be. I think someone posted on here last season that Southampton's recruitment is based upon a group of people sat in a dark room watching hours upon hours of videos and analysing upon that. Tbh I can't see it being that much different to how we or any other club does things, the key is that Di Matteo seems to have chosen him and will work with this system better than Tactics Tim did. Still, it's a positive move judging from that list of players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 This is from a few years back but here's the Southampton recruitment team at the time a I presume it's pretty similar now... ' Senior Recruitment Officer Bill Green Scouting & Recruitment Manager Paul Mitchell Performance Analyst (Academy) Natasha Patel Research Analyst (Recruitment) Ian Torrance Research Analyst (Performance) Scott Waters Scouting Administrator Victoria Spensley Performance Analyst Tom Stockwell Youth Recruitment Officer Rod Ruddick Academy Recruitment Scout Chris Welman Bath Academy Recruitment Co-ordinator Stewart Naughton Head Analyst Andrew Stone ' Saintsweb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Thomas Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 3 minutes ago, sharkyvilla said: I think someone posted on here last season that Southampton's recruitment is based upon a group of people sat in a dark room watching hours upon hours of videos and analysing upon that. Tbh I can't see it being that much different to how we or any other club does things, the key is that Di Matteo seems to have chosen him and will work with this system better than Tactics Tim did. Still, it's a positive move judging from that list of players. I suspect he will be involved in helping to improve the performance of the squad, not just recruitment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted July 5, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted July 5, 2016 20 minutes ago, useless said: I don't think Stone is responsible for scouting those players. Not solely, he would have been tasked with providing statiscal analysis of them though and to give recommendations based on his work. No one person would have been responsible for that list. Stone could be a valuable part of a new team at Villa park given the job of recruiting players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow1988 Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 44 minutes ago, romavillan said: Not solely, he would have been tasked with providing statiscal analysis of them though and to give recommendations based on his work. No one person would have been responsible for that list. Stone could be a valuable part of a new team at Villa park given the job of recruiting players. Moneyball!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 They are all great appointments, until they turn out to be shit. .....I am a jaded,jaded man when it comes to off the field recruitment. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 I heard Di Matteo is a ELO fan which is why he turned to Stone 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daweii Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 He is a piece of the puzzle. Yes his CV reads well because of the scouting team he was a part of at Southampton, but he's likely here to also assist in setting up a similar structure here. I mean their scouting team is insane. Sure probably similar to most other well run clubs but we don't have anything like that, we have never really had anything like that and looking at the kind of hit and miss signings we make it's likely down to that. So yeah Andrew Stone may not be the singular saviour that hand selected every gem Southampton uncovered, but he may be the head of a soon to be formed scouting team to be proud of. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted July 5, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted July 5, 2016 1 hour ago, sparrow1988 said: Moneyball!!!!!!!!!!! Ha! For €2600 over here you can do a course in Milan for a year analysing players in-game then you get a years placement at a club. Turing into the norm very rapidly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Reacho Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/11366206/Gary-Neville-The-era-of-the-gaffer-is-over.html This is a good article - it doesn't mention Stone by name but shows how the analysts work. I don't think they have anything to do with scouting players. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJim Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 1 hour ago, El-Reacho said: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/11366206/Gary-Neville-The-era-of-the-gaffer-is-over.html This is a good article - it doesn't mention Stone by name but shows how the analysts work. I don't think they have anything to do with scouting players. Excellent article, makes you wonder at Koeman a bit, moving away from what sounds like as good a set up as he would find anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Reacho Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 29 minutes ago, BigJim said: Excellent article, makes you wonder at Koeman a bit, moving away from what sounds like as good a set up as he would find anywhere. Reading that you can see the logic behind what Fox, Riley, Almstad etc were actually trying to achieve last year. They clearly just didn't have the expertise to do it, or perhaps tried to do it in one summer whereas Southampton were able to do it over a number of years in the lower leagues. Hard to know where it went wrong - I think there's much more to it than saying they just bought rubbish players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 11 minutes ago, El-Reacho said: Reading that you can see the logic behind what Fox, Riley, Almstad etc were actually trying to achieve last year. They clearly just didn't have the expertise to do it, or perhaps tried to do it in one summer whereas Southampton were able to do it over a number of years in the lower leagues. Hard to know where it went wrong - I think there's much more to it than saying they just bought rubbish players. The key is having the manager to make it work, we had Sherwood who didn't seem to have a clue. I wonder if Garde hadn't gone to us last season and ruined his reputation, just how close he'd have been to getting the Saints job now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 7 hours ago, useless said: At Southampton he was some sort of analyst, I think he has the same job here, pretty much replacing Almstadt. I've no idea if he's the 'Technical Director' that was spoken about, I was expecting a bigger name for that job. But good luck to him whatever is role shall be. Such as? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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