HanoiVillan Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 I'm going to keep an open mind on the lad, I've decided. I thought he was pants last season, but he is young, and Reading fans seem to think he was excellent, so I'll remain open to him performing well on loan just like any other young player. But he does need to show something this season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Has to have a hell of a season scoring and assisting in that league to expect to have a career in the Championship with or without us. The standard in league 1 is terrible so I expect nothing less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Quote I don't like to pick out individual players normally but I have watched Tishibola play 4 times this season now and I am struggling to see what he brings to the team. There is no doubt he has talent but his work rate in my mind is very poor and a lot of the space other teams are getting in the middle of the park is due to him not busting a gut to track back, he also seems to have a lack of vision and the amount of times he doesn't play the simple pass and looks to beat a couple of players which sees moves break down is getting really frustrating. Am I the only one that thinks he is not a team player at present and either needs to step up to he plate and put the effort in the others are or go back to Villa reserves End of rant, of out the cut the lawn Question marks about his attitude and work ethic. Where have we seen that before? Some comments giving him a bit of leeway on account of lack of football, but ultimately it's league 1 and he still isn't doing the business. £5m. https://www.concreteroundabout.co.uk/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=88&t=20743 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted September 19, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted September 19, 2017 When you're playing amongst central midfielders such as Ashley Westwood and Gary gardner, and you still look like comfortably the worst of the bunch, you probably haven't got it. This guy won't pull on a villa shirt again. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 He isnt soing well at league one level he has no chance of makibg it here. Who the hell authorised 5m?? When you think jota went for 6m you see what terrible business this was! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 31 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: He isnt soing well at league one level he has no chance of makibg it here. Who the hell authorised 5m?? When you think jota went for 6m you see what terrible business this was! Probably Steve Clarke pushed for him having managed him at reading . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 2 hours ago, rodders0223 said: Question marks about his attitude and work ethic. Where have we seen that before? It was clear from the first time I saw him play for Villa. He just saunters around the pitch never really putting in any effort. Effort should be the starting point and he should be giving 100% in every game, then after that you can worry about technique or tactics or goals or whatever. In reality, like a lot of footballers, he's just not arsed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Sent off after 5 minutes today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Be lucky to get back 250k I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 A rich man’s Ali Dia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevonIsAPlaceOnEarth Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 A rather stupid error of judgment today. Dallied on the ball, then made a rash challenge when he was dispossessed. It was a young players mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted October 8, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted October 8, 2017 Why are all these former shit players of ours on top of the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Should have stayed at Reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MKDinPeace Posted October 8, 2017 Visiting Supporter Popular Post Share Posted October 8, 2017 (edited) MK Dons supporter here in peace. Not after a big debate about how controversial our club is and how much you hate it, just here to talk about one of your players. Many thanks to the admins for approving me just to specifically talk about Aaron Tshibola who is on loan to us here. We signed Tshibola on a season-long loan at the end of July, and have to admit that amongst our fanbase at the time we were very impressed with the calibre of player we had signed, not least because of his £5m price tag a year earlier which would be unheard of in League 1. Our record club signing is Kieran Agard from Bristol City who cost us in the region of £500k+ last summer. I'd never watched Tshibola play before, but word of mouth was positive and the few clips I had seen of him suggested a solid midfielder with a good eye for a pass. I first watched him play in a pre-season friendly against Leicester City a few days after he signed. For us, he was probably man of the match - picked out a beauty of a pass that cut through the Leicester defence and nearly created a goal. He also created numerous other opportunities. The game finished 0-0. Since then, I'm disappointed to say he is probably been our worst performer this season so far amongst the first team. To sum up his performances so far: Lacks drive - most of his game is spent casually strolling around midfield even when the ball is only a few feet away. He rarely closes down opposition and prefers to sit back where possible. Complacency - makes silly errors every game, whether its a misplaced pass, picking the wrong one when better options are available, or being too negative and passing backwards for no real reason. Perfectly illustrated yesterday with his mistake that lead to him being sent off. Looks like he doesn't want to be here - before you say all of the usual "well of course he doesn't, who would want to play for a franchise" blah blah, I'm sure you'll agree this is a player playing for his footballing future, either with Villa or another club. In all of his pre/post-match interviews he just doesn't seem to care. His "apology" yesterday on Twitter was laughable and half-hearted. Someone made a comment that it summed up his season so far - lacklustre and full of errors. Underperforming overall - ofcourse he didn't ask for a £5m price tag, but this is a player that should really be a "cut above" the average League 1 player, especially coming from a big established club like yourselves. Not only does he not stand out in a positive way, he looks more of a League 2 player if I'm honest. He certainly hasn't offered anything that screams he should be a first team regular. At his best he is mediocre and offers nothing, and his worst, he is a real liability. I wouldn't normally post on another club's forum about a loanee. We have 4 other players on loan from Bristol City (Golbourne), Nottingham Forest (Ariyibi), Southampton (Seager) and Ebanks-Landell (Wolves). All of them have been either above average or excellent for us. Ariyibi (a winger) is our top scorer in all competitions with 5 goals. Ebanks-Landell is a top CB who has also contributed 2 goals himself and contributed to a fairly decent defence with quite a few clean sheets. Seager is a quality player but just needs more service and Golbourne is one of the best left-backs we've had in years, and has several assists already to his name. He's had enough time now to settle in. I hate to say it, but Tshibola is not only one of our worst players, but probably one of our worst ever loanees and if we had the option to send him back to you now we would. I have a feeling he his loan will be mutually terminated in January and rightfully so. I know he divides opinion at Villa and have heard that Bruce is not a fan and I can see why. He is clearly capable of doing 'something' - he played very well against Leicester in pre-season, and I also recall he got an assist a month or so back with a decent pass, but that is literally the only positives I can pick out. 98% of the time he might as well not be on the pitch. Perhaps it is down to attitude, lack of motivation or something else, either way he really needs to turn his game around and sharp-ish if he wants to succeed here, at Villa or elsewhere or he'll end up in non-league. Yes he is still young(ish), and hasn't got a massive amount of experience, but for someone commanding that price tag, either your recruitment team massively overvalued him or he is seriously out of his depth as a professional footballer. Edited October 8, 2017 by MKDinPeace 16 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Not a fan of your club (but as you say that debate isn't for this thread) but think that was an excellent summary of why he hasn't kicked on since he joined us. It's worth remembering he'd only played 20-30 pro games before joining us. Too much hype with his 5m fee and would imagine the good wages he got have diluted his ambition. Worry is it dosen't seem to have been re-ignited by playing in league one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fightoffyour Posted October 8, 2017 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted October 8, 2017 1 hour ago, VillaChris said: Not a fan of your club Good, you're supposed to be a Villa fan 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nigel Posted October 8, 2017 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted October 8, 2017 4 hours ago, MKDinPeace said: MK Dons supporter here in peace. Not after a big debate about how controversial our club is and how much you hate it, just here to talk about one of your players. Many thanks to the admins for approving me just to specifically talk about Aaron Tshibola who is on loan to us here. We signed Tshibola on a season-long loan at the end of July, and have to admit that amongst our fanbase at the time we were very impressed with the calibre of player we had signed, not least because of his £5m price tag a year earlier which would be unheard of in League 1. Our record club signing is Kieran Agard from Bristol City who cost us in the region of £500k+ last summer. I'd never watched Tshibola play before, but word of mouth was positive and the few clips I had seen of him suggested a solid midfielder with a good eye for a pass. I first watched him play in a pre-season friendly against Leicester City a few days after he signed. For us, he was probably man of the match - picked out a beauty of a pass that cut through the Leicester defence and nearly created a goal. He also created numerous other opportunities. The game finished 0-0. Since then, I'm disappointed to say he is probably been our worst performer this season so far amongst the first team. To sum up his performances so far: Lacks drive - most of his game is spent casually strolling around midfield even when the ball is only a few feet away. He rarely closes down opposition and prefers to sit back where possible. Complacency - makes silly errors every game, whether its a misplaced pass, picking the wrong one when better options are available, or being too negative and passing backwards for no real reason. Perfectly illustrated yesterday with his mistake that lead to him being sent off. Looks like he doesn't want to be here - before you say all of the usual "well of course he doesn't, who would want to play for a franchise" blah blah, I'm sure you'll agree this is a player playing for his footballing future, either with Villa or another club. In all of his pre/post-match interviews he just doesn't seem to care. His "apology" yesterday on Twitter was laughable and half-hearted. Someone made a comment that it summed up his season so far - lacklustre and full of errors. Underperforming overall - ofcourse he didn't ask for a £5m price tag, but this is a player that should really be a "cut above" the average League 1 player, especially coming from a big established club like yourselves. Not only does he not stand out in a positive way, he looks more of a League 2 player if I'm honest. He certainly hasn't offered anything that screams he should be a first team regular. At his best he is mediocre and offers nothing, and his worst, he is a real liability. I wouldn't normally post on another club's forum about a loanee. We have 4 other players on loan from Bristol City (Golbourne), Nottingham Forest (Ariyibi), Southampton (Seager) and Ebanks-Landell (Wolves). All of them have been either above average or excellent for us. Ariyibi (a winger) is our top scorer in all competitions with 5 goals. Ebanks-Landell is a top CB who has also contributed 2 goals himself and contributed to a fairly decent defence with quite a few clean sheets. Seager is a quality player but just needs more service and Golbourne is one of the best left-backs we've had in years, and has several assists already to his name. He's had enough time now to settle in. I hate to say it, but Tshibola is not only one of our worst players, but probably one of our worst ever loanees and if we had the option to send him back to you now we would. I have a feeling he his loan will be mutually terminated in January and rightfully so. I know he divides opinion at Villa and have heard that Bruce is not a fan and I can see why. He is clearly capable of doing 'something' - he played very well against Leicester in pre-season, and I also recall he got an assist a month or so back with a decent pass, but that is literally the only positives I can pick out. 98% of the time he might as well not be on the pitch. Perhaps it is down to attitude, lack of motivation or something else, either way he really needs to turn his game around and sharp-ish if he wants to succeed here, at Villa or elsewhere or he'll end up in non-league. Yes he is still young(ish), and hasn't got a massive amount of experience, but for someone commanding that price tag, either your recruitment team massively overvalued him or he is seriously out of his depth as a professional footballer. I see whats happening here.... £4 million and hes yours! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyp Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 His twitter bio says "God is great" Maybe. But tshibola is pretty shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted October 9, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted October 9, 2017 8 hours ago, MKDinPeace said: MK Dons supporter here in peace. Not after a big debate about how controversial our club is and how much you hate it, just here to talk about one of your players. Many thanks to the admins for approving me just to specifically talk about Aaron Tshibola who is on loan to us here. We signed Tshibola on a season-long loan at the end of July, and have to admit that amongst our fanbase at the time we were very impressed with the calibre of player we had signed, not least because of his £5m price tag a year earlier which would be unheard of in League 1. Our record club signing is Kieran Agard from Bristol City who cost us in the region of £500k+ last summer. I'd never watched Tshibola play before, but word of mouth was positive and the few clips I had seen of him suggested a solid midfielder with a good eye for a pass. I first watched him play in a pre-season friendly against Leicester City a few days after he signed. For us, he was probably man of the match - picked out a beauty of a pass that cut through the Leicester defence and nearly created a goal. He also created numerous other opportunities. The game finished 0-0. Since then, I'm disappointed to say he is probably been our worst performer this season so far amongst the first team. To sum up his performances so far: Lacks drive - most of his game is spent casually strolling around midfield even when the ball is only a few feet away. He rarely closes down opposition and prefers to sit back where possible. Complacency - makes silly errors every game, whether its a misplaced pass, picking the wrong one when better options are available, or being too negative and passing backwards for no real reason. Perfectly illustrated yesterday with his mistake that lead to him being sent off. Looks like he doesn't want to be here - before you say all of the usual "well of course he doesn't, who would want to play for a franchise" blah blah, I'm sure you'll agree this is a player playing for his footballing future, either with Villa or another club. In all of his pre/post-match interviews he just doesn't seem to care. His "apology" yesterday on Twitter was laughable and half-hearted. Someone made a comment that it summed up his season so far - lacklustre and full of errors. Underperforming overall - ofcourse he didn't ask for a £5m price tag, but this is a player that should really be a "cut above" the average League 1 player, especially coming from a big established club like yourselves. Not only does he not stand out in a positive way, he looks more of a League 2 player if I'm honest. He certainly hasn't offered anything that screams he should be a first team regular. At his best he is mediocre and offers nothing, and his worst, he is a real liability. I wouldn't normally post on another club's forum about a loanee. We have 4 other players on loan from Bristol City (Golbourne), Nottingham Forest (Ariyibi), Southampton (Seager) and Ebanks-Landell (Wolves). All of them have been either above average or excellent for us. Ariyibi (a winger) is our top scorer in all competitions with 5 goals. Ebanks-Landell is a top CB who has also contributed 2 goals himself and contributed to a fairly decent defence with quite a few clean sheets. Seager is a quality player but just needs more service and Golbourne is one of the best left-backs we've had in years, and has several assists already to his name. He's had enough time now to settle in. I hate to say it, but Tshibola is not only one of our worst players, but probably one of our worst ever loanees and if we had the option to send him back to you now we would. I have a feeling he his loan will be mutually terminated in January and rightfully so. I know he divides opinion at Villa and have heard that Bruce is not a fan and I can see why. He is clearly capable of doing 'something' - he played very well against Leicester in pre-season, and I also recall he got an assist a month or so back with a decent pass, but that is literally the only positives I can pick out. 98% of the time he might as well not be on the pitch. Perhaps it is down to attitude, lack of motivation or something else, either way he really needs to turn his game around and sharp-ish if he wants to succeed here, at Villa or elsewhere or he'll end up in non-league. Yes he is still young(ish), and hasn't got a massive amount of experience, but for someone commanding that price tag, either your recruitment team massively overvalued him or he is seriously out of his depth as a professional footballer. Top post, and good to have it reaffirmed that 'Tish' was a complete and utter waste of resources. Bruce doesn't always credit (including from me) but in this case he looks like he was spot on in decision to freeze/loan him out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted October 9, 2017 Moderator Share Posted October 9, 2017 His attitude is wrong, it was here, it was at Forest and seemingly is at MK. He will no doubt leave us on a free in a few years and then end up in Canada, he really reminds me of NRC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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